Violent Celebration Flag Creep
About half a decade ago the people finally won the fight against the mess that had become the “excessive celebration” penalty. The restrictions on celebrations had gotten absolutely absurd. You couldn’t celebrate with other players, you had to be fast, with absolutely no questionable gestures. Some of the things that were getting called were insulting. The NFL finally listened and lifted the ban. All the whiney babies who hated players having any sort of fun were extremely mad…and then were silent as the world seemed to move on. As soon as all these celebrations were legal, it was fine! A tiny amount of grumbling at best. I don’t even register celebrations half the time now. I was glad we got over that pointless bump and weren’t reduced to every player acting exactly like Barry Sanders and quietly giving the ball to the official after every cool play.
The thing is, it kind of feels like the conservative anti-fun brigade simply kept quiet and looked for a new avenue of complaint and now celebration bitterness is coming back in a more subtle form. It started with taunting penalties.
Taunting is a grey area. I’m all for it. It’s competition, emotions are high; let the player shit talk. Taunting crosses a line when certain language is used (we can’t hear it, so we have to trust a ref knows, which I can accept), obscene gestures or unnecessary physical contact is involved. I see nothing wrong with banning very obscene gestures and words. Probably not a good idea to let players throw the bird at each other constantly or scream slurs. Hot mics already catch a fair number of Shits and Fucks on a broadcast. They probably also shouldn’t let players physically impose contact on other players because that can start fights. But some of the stuff that gets called for taunting is just as stupid as the celebration penalties. Guys have been called for staring at other players from yards away or making perfectly ordinary gestures from a distance. I’ve seen very few taunting penalties that felt like they deserved to get flagged. Most involved physical contact with the player going out of their way to get in the other player’s face.
Taunting penalties did seem to slow down a bit though. So a new problem has crept in. Football leagues, college and pro, are now starting to crack down on “violent” celebrations. Finger Guns are now illegal. Sometimes even pointing is illegal. That tweet is Giants WR Darius Slayton getting sassy about how he was flagged for his pointing gesture after making a first down but Mahomes and company were not. Fuck off with this. You will not take Finger Guns from me. Finger Guns are the best. Every person on the planet has done finger guns. Finger Guns are one of those classic gestures. I can kind of get the argument of violence if the finger guns are pointed and “fired” at a player, like a taunt, and the taunter mimics shooting the other player. I can see why that might be bad taste and probably should be discouraged, but a lot of the guys who got flagged are like Slayton: just kinda pointing down the field. A long tradition of pointing forward in the direction of your goal after you get a first down.
I write this post the same night after the Vikings and Rams played an atrociously officiated game that ended with Sam Darnold getting his facemask whipped around violently in his own endzone for a safety with two referees staring directly at him and not throwing the flag. The officiating in games is so fucking bad and we are now making them make judgment calls on if they think a silly taunt is over the line. The officiating is broken and needs fixing, the issue is not fucking Finger Guns.
Also the NFL announced Machine Gun Kelly is doing the halftime show for the Germany game. Are they going to rename him Massive Hugs Kelly or something?
Don’t worry, Dave, in the next few years AI will solve this problem for us, and we won’t have to watch real football anymore, we can just describe it.
“Create football season where the Hobbits go 25-0, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers are both simultaneously quarterbacking every game for each of their opponents, and Batman brutally sacks them and breaks a different bone on every single play, but they are forced to go back out again. Turn officiating off. John Madden and Thanos will do the commentary.”
Your comment now makes me desperately want a game like Ultimate Epic Battle Sim 2, but for sports. Is Basil Fawlty from ‘Fawlty Towers’ an All-Pro calibre QB? Can Jessica Fletcher from ‘Murder, She Wrote’ cover the deep middle? Will Crow T. Robot from MST3K set the single-season sack record?
Massive bonus points for mentioning Basil Fawlty! I think he’s 1000% capable of being a certified first ballot HoF QB. After years of toiling under the cruel yoke of Sybil, he is ready to shine. He has quite the chemistry with Manuel, maybe he’s gonna be the top flight WR1. And yea, I’d kill some puppies for a game like that!
This is tough because part of the reason the NFL cracked down so hard on celebrations a little over a decade ago is because of kids. The league knew that they were watching it and attempting to replicate what NFL players were doing when they would play in their games, which led to the obvious fear that it could lead to fights and other highly unsafe nonsense, since kids are flat out stupid and tend to take things too far. Obviously this was an extremely outrageous fear given that at the time players were just doing cool dances and other fun team stuff, so the idea that it could lead to fights or anything like that was ridiculous.
The problem–at least with college players–is that the celebrations in question that they’re doing now are not only extremely violent, but at times involve other players. Stuff like this is why you’re seeing a harsher crackdown: https://youtu.be/Plf6e5I3Nz8?feature=shared&t=56. Or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fZOLGSVFT0. I will say that this hasn’t broken into the NFL yet, but you did have Drake London airing out Lincoln Financial Field after a game-tying TD which is still kind of wild: https://youtu.be/IOWYuncFMYQ?feature=shared&t=655. And that’s not even getting into the whole “Belt to Ass” trend that sparked up for a short time amongst Middle School and High School players.
Just to be clear, I’m cool with most celebrations. They’re fun, and players should be allowed to go nuts whenever they make a big play, but celebrations should not involve the other team, and they probably shouldn’t simulate blowing another player’s brains out. I agree that the NFL is taking things way too far by trying to ban everything down to basic Finger Guns, but when you have referees making calls like this – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXyVU4PX_Es – yeah, I’d say things have gone a little too far and you probably do need to dial it back a bit.
I see why the first two you linked are bad, especially the second one. I think the Drake London one is fine, shooting at the sky seems harmless to me especially when the Bucs fire cannons after every score and the Patriots have a bunch of people shoot muskets.
Whenever I see the Golden Gophers penalty I know he’s pretending to flash a piece but it always just looks like he’s showing off his abs which makes the “brandishing a dealdy weapon” idea very funny. His abs are deadly.
I think the “don’t pretend to aim a gun at another human” is a fair line in the sand.
Holy crap did you hit the hypocrisy nail on the head with the muskets and cannon.
Also the tight connection to the US military (usaa is a league sponsor).
I love the idea of referees just burying MGK in flags during the halftime show for being a gun.
Not to excuse the call, but my understanding on the Slayton thing was that he did while on the Seattle sideline and basically put his fingers more or less up against a coach’s head as he walked away. That at least feels a bit different from doing the same gesture in the middle of an open field.
Officiating has been pretty bad in general this year across a lot of sports. Baseball is now seriously considering RoboUmps because of all the bad calls. The WNBA had one of its most-ever-viewed Finals ruined by some pretty terrible calls and no-calls. And this season has been wild from the illegal formations to the discussion around QB runs, to last night’s series of suspiciously-timed calls against the Vikings and the blatant no-call at the end. I can’t tell if technology is so good now that we have the ammo to really see this kind of chicanery, or if it’s just genuinely way worse….like most things the answer is probably a bit of both….
I think it’s a combo of things getting worse and now us having such instant access to high def angles and replays that it makes spotting mistakes easier. But largely I think officiating is just worse.
Gonna suck when Tua goes into a ‘fencing pose’ after yet another concussion and the refs throw 15 yards on top of it.
You can have my Finger Guns when you pry them from my cold dead hands
I think it’s a bit losing the forest for the trees, getting pissy about violent celebrations while watching a violent game. Trying to have our cake and eat it too