Iron Manning Deserved Better Than This
Fuck the Giants.
In my entire life as a football fan I’ve never seen a season this bad. This is the nightmare scenario made real. I’ve been mad at the franchise, I’ve disapproved of the team, but I’ve never felt the level of disdain I felt for them these past two days. I own a lot of Giants clothing, namely hoodies, jackets, and hats. I wear them constantly. It doesn’t matter how bad they are or what, I just walk around in them. Tuesday, when I got home to change into my comfy lounge clothing, I pulled one of my hoodies out of the closet and for the first time that I can ever remember, didn’t want to wear it. Tuesday was the first time I can remember ever being genuinely embarrassed to root for the team. Every rationalization I’ve ever made about ownership, coaching, general management, all of it went out the window. How dare you do Eli dirty like that you fucks.
The man has given you nothing but professionalism over the past 13 seasons. He’s never been the greatest QB of all time, but he’s gone out there every game 210 times in a row and given it his all each time. He’s never cared about padding his stats, he went out there to win, even when it made him make dumb throws and dumb mistakes. He is a franchise legend who helped bring two championships to the team, including one that is probably one of the greatest upsets and moments in sports history. He did it all with class in a media market friendly to no one. In a town critical of everything, Eli became a hero all Giants fans would stand up for. And you couldn’t even let the man finish the lost season on his own terms. When people from all over the league, from every fanbase, even people who hate him and think he’s a bad QB think that you’ve done the man dirty, you done fucked up.
Eli means so much to this franchise and this has confirmed that Mara, Reese, McAdoo, Tisch and all of the top brass are exceptionally out of touch with the fanbase. Eli is beloved. He’s a goddamn hero to us. If there is a Mt. Rushmore of Giants it’s LT, Eli, Frank Gifford, and probably Michael Strahan. The ending of Eli’s tenure as a Giant was never going to be comfortable, but this is beyond what I thought the organization would do. I never thought they’d do this. He’s not hurt. He’s playing poorly, but he’s far from the biggest problem and he’s not really holding the team back. If you want to move on from Eli, then fine. That’s understandable. But not like this. He’s earned the right to start these last 5 meaningless games, get cut, and see what the future holds. Asking Eli to start one half to keep the streak going was a bullshit gesture. Ben McAdoo doesn’t get to give Eli that choice. If Eli wants to play out the rest of this worthless year as the starter, he’s earned that much. We’d all be sad at the end, but we’d understand. We wouldn’t be furious.
Seeing what Geno Smith and Davis Webb have to offer while the season is lost also isn’t the biggest problem in a vacuum. But what’s the point of this now? If the Giants wanted to move on from Eli and see what Geno or Webb has to offer why haven’t we seen more of them before this, during some of the blowout losses? Also, Ben McAdoo has no goddamn chance of keeping his job, so what the fuck does he need to see the future for? Reese should be getting fired too, but now I’m beginning to doubt that happens. The more I see this nonsense unfold, the more Ben McAdoo feels like a different scapegoat puppet. Reese and Mara want to move on from Eli, and McAdoo is already hated, just let him appear to be the guy who decided it, make Ben fall on the sword. I hate Ben and want him gone, but I actually think Reese is the bigger fucknut in this. Mara too, for being so out of touch that he okay’d it. But really, what are we going to learn about Geno or Webb in these 5 weeks anyway? It’s not like the offense is good and is being held back by the QB play, the team is a mess. The WRs are dead. The o-line is patchwork. The run game is better now, but if this is to evaluate QBs the run game hardly matters. Geno and Webb are going to look like shit in this situation, almost any QB would. We really aren’t going to learn much about these dudes here. This should be the job of the next GM, next season.
(As a side note, I have no issue with them starting Geno instead of Webb at first. Geno is 27 and although I’ve mocked him a lot, he was indeed given a raw deal on the Jets, and might have something worth looking at still. But this is not the situation to figure that out, this is setting the guy up to fail. I feel bad for Geno too. No one wants him out there for a number of reasons. This is not how you want to get the job.)
When I was a kid and liked baseball more than football, my other favorite player was Cal Ripken, another Iron Man. I watched him end his streak on his terms. I watched what it should have been. This franchise owes Eli so much, and this is such a poor way to treat a Giants legend. I don’t know how he took the high road here, I don’t know if I could have done the same.
Eli technically has 5 games left as a Giant, and theoretically could still be here next season, but it still feels like the end of an era came Tuesday. It ended the worst possible way. I’ve bought into the whole Giants “classy” mystique we all get fed over the years, but this, the Josh Brown thing, and the now very telling ousting of Tom Coughlin have proved to me that it’s all a load of bull. Mara is just as garbage as the other owners. The franchise isn’t the class of the NFL in any way. Mara is a silver spoon buttmunch who doesn’t deserve nearly the level of respect that Wellington does. Unless the team cleans house and actually makes strides this offseason, I’ll probably start hate-watching the team more than anything. I’m in too deep to change fandoms at this point, but the level of my loyalty has been shaken. I wish Eli nothing but the very best. I’ll save the less angry thank you Eli post for the official end of his tenure as a Giant/player, because right now it’s all too much anger at the franchise. If you want more righteous indignation the latest podcast episode should go live Friday, and having recorded it already, it is 1 hour of trashing the Giants. So if you’ve ever wanted that, be sure to listen in.
Thank you, Eli. You deserved a better end than this.
Eli’s benching is among the most classless things I’ve seen an NFL team do to its players. There’s nothing that you really need to see right now from Geno, and Webb shouldn’t be thrown into this team right now, either. This is an absolute slap in the face to the Giant’s fandom, and to someone who has built the quietest Hall of Fame career a QB’s had.
Eli isn’t a hall of famer. Plunkett was better.
Eli isn’t first ballet but could get in one day (and most likely will thanks to NY media bias). Plunckett was never even considered the best QB on his own team, much less one of the top QBs in the league. He won two Super Bowls where his opponents scored an average of 9.5 and when he won the MVP he only completed 13 passes.
Not that I consider Eli top flight or anything, but he’s been in a much tougher situation than most of the top QBs, never really having an innovative, modern-offense focused coach. Their best pass play for the past 13 seasons had been chuck it deep and pray, which is something you’d see in football circa 1980, not the 2000s.
Yea – Eli’s defense got hot in the playoffs, but so would he.
Again he’s not Tom Brady or Peyton Manning but you switch Bom Tady and Eli, where Eli could play for a team that could go 12-4 with Matt Cassell, have an offense more similar to college offenses, have the greatest coach/GM of all time, only have to score 20 points a game to win, and he probably wins 4 superbowls instead of 4 (let’s face it 2 were gimmes for a QB). On the reverse Brady would probably never win one under Coughlin but would probably have much better stats and be better revered as a top QB than Eli is.
3 instead of 5*
Take a look at Eli’s career placements in all-time stats.
#6 all time in completed passes
#7 in attempted passes
#7 all time in passing yards
#7 all time in passing TDs
While it’s true that there are others hot on his heals– Ringless Rivers, Rapistburger, State Farm– and half the people ahead of him are contemporaries– Brees, Peyton “Not as good as his brother” Manning, and Brady– that’s still a pretty strong accomplishment. Second longest starting streak for a QB in NFL history, and benched not for injuries; that’s still rarefied air. 2 time Super Bowl MVP and winner. How many 2-time Super Bowl winners don’t have a tacky yellow jacket? You named the only one, and he is no where near Eli even among his contemporaries in those top-stats.
Eli has the plays– there’s a lotta derpiness to the guy, but 4th Quarter Eli was a very real thing, and there was just some incredible plays. Yeah, Tyree’s helmet catch was amazing, but that play was so much more about Eli keeping that play alive with what I think was the single best QB play I’ve ever seen; it’s certainly in the top 5.
Yes. Eli is a guaranteed Hall of Famer. He probably deserves first ballot, but he won’t get it. He’s quieter than Peyton. But when you compare him to his contemporaries… he’s done as much with less than Roethlisberger and arguably Rivers. He’s way behind, statistically, the trio of Manning, Brady, and Brees… but then, Moon was behind Aikman, Marino, Montana, Young, Elway, Favre, and Kelly if not always statistically but in raw perceived ability (and, I’d argue, behind Cunningham, Esiason) among his contemporaries. Admittedly, I’m of the opinion Moon shouldn’t be in the Hall, but QBs are going to be over-represented. Every claim for Moon being in the Hall is based on his career numbers (he had two *GREAT* years in ’90 and ’91, and a few other good one’s scattered throughout, but it was all about his longevity and career stats rather than his dominance amongst his peers).
I just don’t see a case, at all, for Eli not getting in. It’s a quiet career, something fairly remarkable for being the best quarterback any New York team’s ever had.
In defense of Warren Moon, it is called the PRO FOOTBALL Hall of Fame. Moon won 5 straight (Grey Cup) championships for the Edmonton Eskimos, a feat that hasn’t been matched in any pro sport. His contributions to the game on both sides of the border have earned him the right to be in the HoF.
My bad – I guess the Celtics, Yankees and Canadiens have equal or longer championship streaks. But it is still the longest championship streak in pro football.
Technically, the Cleveland Browns won 4 consecutive AAFC championships from 1946-1949 and followed that up with the championship in their first NFL season in 1950 for 5 straight titles… but that’s splitting hairs.
Also technically 5 wins in a row have not been unheard of outside of the US, even in major leagues, in all kinds of sports. Arguably the most well known are Real Madrid’s five consecutive titles in the European Champions’ Cup (soccer).
I think that we put way too much stock in superbowls for quarterbacks. There is a much higher correlation to defensive play than QB play. Having a good QB can allow an average to good defense to win a Superbowl, but no matter how good your QB is, if your defense bad then your degree of difficulty skyrockets.
In terms of points per drive since 2001, the Superbowl champions ranked:
2001 (#6), 2002 (#1), 2003 (#1), 2004 (#4), 2005 (#4), 2006 (#31), 2007 (#5), 2008 (#2), 2009 (#14), 2010 (#1), 2011 (#25), 2012 (#11), 2013 (#1), 2014 (#8), 2015 (#1), 2016 (#2).
So – outside of Peyton, Eli, Brees and Flacco no other champion ranked out of the top 10. And even Brees needed a million turnovers and Peyton needed the Colts best defender to return from injury.
Point is: no defense no Superbowl. That’s why it’s pathetic that people somehow think Bom Tady is more important than Bellicheck. Or that Peyton Manning sucks because somehow he couldn’t stop opposing teams from scoring. Or Ben Roethlisberger is great because his defense carried him to 2 Superbowls.
He will be in the Hall whether you like it or not, just not in first ballot though, that would be kind of surprising. Also maybe if Plunkett didn’t have the misfortune of playing for some really bad teams early in his career, maybe he would have been in the Hall but that’s how it was. At least he did get a chance to salvage his career with the Raiders.
“I’ll probably start hate-watching the team more than anything. I’m in too deep to change fandoms at this point, but the level of my loyalty has been shaken.”
Welcome to the club
“I’ll probably start hate-watching the team more than anything. I’m in too deep to change fandoms at this point, but the level of my loyalty has been shaken.”
Welcome to the club.
Ben McAdoo more like Ben “should be fucking fired from the Giants and be thrown into the Hudson River for handling the benching of your best QB reeeeally badly” McAdoo
but Ben McAPoop works fine too
oh wait I just remembered that the Giants don’t play in New York lmao
but my statement still stands
You realize that the Giants play in a stadium that is literally just 10 miles away from NYC, not too far across said river, right? That’s closer to their city than the 49ers, Washington, and the Cowboys are to theirs.
well no i didnt
how do i delete a comment
Nickname’s a little long, but I approve wholeheartedly.
Ditto.
As a Patriots fan the guy should by all rational lines of thought be a nemesis, a guy I hate for taking those two rings away. Over the years, I’ve loved to hate Big Ben, I’ve loved to hate Peyton, I’ve loved to hate pretty much everyone who ever did something meaningful for the Ravens for a couple of years (note that when I say “hate”, I obviously mean it in the “fan-hate” kind of way. Well, except for Ray Lewis, that piece of human garbage)
Yet I’ve never felt the slightest bit of hate towards Eli. I was upset about my team losing, sure, but even in those moments, I felt nothing but respect for him, he just seems to be an incredibly decent human being and I wish him nothing but the best. The way this has gone has really been an awful disservice to him and I’m sad to see it end like this.
And now that I’ve written this, I’m just waiting for him to beat the Pats in another SB on another team next year…
As a Pats fan, I’ll be happy for Eli to be off the Giants so I can separate my fan-hate for him from my real world-hate for Mara over deflategate.
I like to see that too, partly as a middle finger toward Mara. Right now I never thought I would wish this to happen but, here’s hoping they lose the last five games. The guy won them two SB titles and this is how they thanked him in return.
Even Strahan called them out for this.
Giants play the AFC South next year, so it’d be pretty funny if Eli leaves to reunite with Coughlin in Jacksonville.
There was never going to be a right way to move on from Eli….But this…Peyton went out better and he should’ve been taken out behind the woodshed and shot like the horrible QB he was in his last season.
Eli’s (most likely) last season ends in the disaster that will haunt the franchise for a decade or more. Eli deserved so much better.
McPoop is a poop who drinks Pepsi
actually, he drinks the really bad generic soda that says just cola on it
Exactly, this is bull shit.
If they’re going to go with Geno Smith, they better lose. That way they can at least get themselves a good draft position to go along to know that starting Geno is a mistake.
Geno Smith the Linebacker (Arvill Nelson) is better than the real Geno Smith. Also, the Cleveland Gladiators died (or as they put it, suspended operations for 2 Yeats for Quicken Loans renovations even though the renovations aren’t affecting the Cavs/Monsters.
Dave, you made it sound like Eli got cut.
I don’t know how you see this situation and not realize that is effectively what happened. The team has clearly decided to move on from Eli (Which is understandable honestly) and then basically insulted him with how they did it. Eli’s not sticking around after this season and since he refused McAdoo’s bullshit offer to just play for the streak we probably won’t see him play much more this year, if at all. He’s not technically cut, but this very much signified the end.
I give Eli the blessing I gave unto his brother, unto Warner before him, unto Farve before him, and unto Montana before him.
The only part of this that gives me pleasure is me knowing that he will be in Jacksonville in a few months, and the fact that he’ll probably get a Peyton in Denver level chance to get a third ring.
That video of Eli chocking back tears is the hardest thing to watch that has come out this season. I largely don’t even think of the Giants but Christ, what a bad move in every sense of the word.
This is how you get cursed with a 20+ year playoff drought
Poor Bills.
To be fair, it is the Bills after all.
Just hope the Giants gets their acts together before they went and repeat their “Wilderness Era” from the 1960s and 1970s.
Thanks for giving us our first win, at least. 😛
Eli embraced New York. He wanted to start and finish his career there. I don’t think that he moves on. Its probably Jacksonville or retirement. Most likely retirement.
Golf clap
I’ve never seen this side of you before. I’m really shocked with what has become of the Giants this year. They were supposed to be a contender, and they could barely win two games. To make matters worse the team decides to sell out and bench the greatest QB they ever had like it’s nothing. It’s all just one big scapegoat at this point for New York.
Same here, not to mention they were kind of unlucky at first but it’s clear there are problems that is needed to be fixed. However…benching Eli is a good way to rub further salt into their wound and is among one of the douchiest things they could have done. I usually expect that from the Browns or the Jets or the 1970s Giants.
Honestly, the lousy season didn’t really bother me much. It happens – good franchises have bad years, even bad stretches, then they get some draft picks and a few stars want to play with the young guys and then you’re back. Sunrise, sunset. That’s what this COULD have been.
Instead, now Mara has shown himself to be incompetent at all levels – picking a bad GM in Reese, a bad Coach, and apparently screwing over their star player. And he’s not someone you can replace easily. Now every player sees that – and they’re not going to get those stars who want to play in New York. With Reese picking in the draft, we’re not getting the best players.
It will be continued mediocrity for years to come. And you know what? Big Blue deserves it. Entirely deserves whatever bad fate comes to them. This was a humiliating week to be a Giants fan. Losses happen. Bad seasons happen. Being as classless and clueless as what has happened this week shows a team’s real character – and they’ve shown they don’t deserve our love and and devotion.
I wish he would go to the broncos
BRONCOS SHOULD SIGN HIM
That actually does sound somewhat realistic. Or the Cards
I’ll be for it only if the Broncos secure a trade for that certain left tackle whose career is being wasted in Cleveland.
You do have to give it up for guys who will stick to teams no matter the circumstance like Joe Thomas has done. Or Kyle Williams/Fred Jackson in Buffalo. I was similarly stunned when Doug Whaley cut Jackson that year
Yeah it’s too bad, Joe Thomas deserves better than this.
I’m incredibly angry and disappointed at this franchise for this decision and what it does to Eli. He’s given everything he has and he did it every week, every game, to try and win. Hell, the last few weeks showed he was trying to win more than anyone else on the team.
I also used to think the Giants were one of the classier organizations in the league. That was definitely shattered Tuesday when I found out they were in fact straight trash.
I hope out of spite, he goes to Jacksonville. If he hits the market, Coughlin will kidnap him if he has too. He can lure him there with a lifetime supply of bomb pops. With a potentially healthy Fournette and that defense, I want nothing more for him to win the Super Bowl next year.
I’m thinking the same thing, plus it can also help remove some extra doubts about his HOF chances anyway. I lost tons of respect for the Giants after what happened.
Does anyone know how many years Odell have left on his contract? Cause like Dave said on Twitter this move could set back the future of the franchise if this situation causes Odell to leave for a different, non treating star players like shit team and get paid
I know how you feel when you have a closet full of gear you don’t want to wear. That day happened for me back in January.
But your hate-watching might turn back into regular watching when you see a bit of success like we have the last few weeks. Particularly with the way the Chiefs have come crashing back to earth.
Also, thanks for beating them! If you only get 3 wins this year, I hope they are all against my AFC West rivals. Two down, one to go!
Actually I would rather that they lose all five remaining games, they deserve that much.
In only one season Mara became as hated as Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder
If the Giants for some reason release him during this league year, I would love to see the Chargers claim him off waivers.
Holy crap that would be awesome
The Chargers would have somewhat better shot winning the title with him that Rivers. Come to think of it. if Rivers gets demoted for some reason and Eli leads them to a SB win, Rivers could no longer be known as “Ringless Rivers” thanks to Eli.
Imagine how the new installment of that comic would be like.
civil warrrrrr
Wow! Angry Dave is seriously harsh. I like that. But not why you’re angry. This is BS. Pure and simple. I have never been a big Eli fan. I do like him though. He’s a good guy who works hard and keeps his mouth shut. Being from Mississippi, I’ve heard a lot about Eli over the years, coming up through college and all. But seriously!
FUCK THE GIANTS! You take care of the guy that’s taken care of you. And they botched that. And Mara had the nerve to come out and say “We might not have handled this right.” No shit. Fans are irate. Former players are blasting this move. And Eli…..stood in front of the camera with a mic in his face and took the highest of the high roads.
No question, McAdoo is done. Reese most certainly should be too. This team being bad is not solely because Eli hasn’t been good. It’s been because he hasn’t been good enough to carry this shit team that Reese put together. This one move has destroyed years worth of goodwill they have built up with their fanbase.
Don’t blame McAdoo. He’s a terrible coach and has been very critical of Eli, but he didn’t make this decision. If anything, putting McAdoo out to take the heat for benching Eli was one more way the decision to bench Eli has been grossly mishandled by the Giants upper management
“Mara too, for being so out of touch that he okay’d it.”
Mara says it was his idea:
“Giants’ John Mara says he initiated idea to replace Eli Manning”
https://www.newsday.com/sports/football/giants/eli-manning-john-mara-giants-1.15249883
And then he was “surprised” at how bad of a reaction it got, so his response basically boiled down to “Yea, maybe we should have handled it better, but oh well.”
The Onion Headline: Actual NFL owner less talented at Running Team then Madden Fantasy Owner.
Ugh, good thing Wellington wasn’t alive to hear this as far as I know.
FFS
Oh boy. And I thought the Panthers were the biggest fuckups the way they let Steve Smith, DeAngelo Williams and Josh Norman go.
The news hit me really freaking hard, I’m not going to lie.
I’m currently going to school down south, but Eli owns a house in New Jersey the next town over from me. Dude’s a LEGEND in my neck of the woods. I’ve personally never met him, but he travels downtown from time to time and I have several friends who have just casually run into him. He takes photos and gives time to fans, and I’ve heard nothing but nice things from him.
Every year (not sure if they do it anymore), the Giants host a season-ending golf outing at the country club that I used to work at. Sometimes, if you’re lucky enough, you can slip into the pool and look through the fence and see Manning hitting a drive down #13. Dude’s apparently big into golf. During 2012, they brought the XLVI Lombardi to the club and people were lining up and down the street to take a look at it (I was in school. My mom got a peek at it and I was jealous of her for a good week or two).
Where I live, it’s basically right in the heart of the worst Giants/Jets country, where team loyalties are split pretty heavily based on where you live. My Giants-loving town is sandwiched between two Jets-loving towns, probably because Florham Park is 15 minutes away from my house and I have to put up with annoying Jets fans and even the wayward Eagles fan or two (though they’re more of a South Jersey Phenomenon).
But, in spite of all of that, I’ve never heard a bad word against Eli. People around my area absolutely adore him, and even the Jets fans have a massive amount of respect for him. Every single person I know that’s met Eli says that he’s a goddamn blessing to the community, and if/when he switches teams it’s going to be gut-wrenching to see him leave.
We’ve all cursed out Eli before for his bad play–Lord knows I have–but no one can deny the dude’s a baller, through and through.
I was only a 7-year-old girl when I first saw Eli play. Now, I’m on the verge of being 21. I don’t think I’m ready to move on.
Godspeed, Iron Manning. You deserved better than this.
eli earns a million points for taking it like a man, and insisting that if you’re there to play, you’re there to play, not just to keep a streak alive. mad respek.
Honestly I didn’t even pay attention on Tuesday but Wednesday hit me like a truck. Eli absolutely embrace the love New York gave him. In turn he brought home 2 lombardis, both against the undisputed G.O.A.T. This as absolutely insane and this blemish isn’t gonna be healed by a few band-aids. Eli won’t be known as the guy who beat the 18-0 patriots, he’ll be known as the dude who the Giants benched for GENO FUCKING SMITH.
So with this type of decision, I’ll just consider the Giants in tanking mode. I was hoping that after this season, future drafts and seasons would be focused on the o-line and the running game and get a first round qb once Eli retires, but now the Giants are gonna have to get a top tier QB to replace Eli and still make decisions to get an ok offensive line and a somewhat decent running game in case Orleans Darkwa is just having a good season.
Overall, as a giants fan, this decision is the worst I’ve seen in a while. Eli deserves so much better than a demotion midway through a trap season. He’s not the only reason this team is bad. In fact, I don’t think he really was a reason this team is in this state as of now. Jerry Reese needs to be fired, Mcapoo should go back to offensive-coordinating and we need to hire Tom “cmon Eli don’t do that” Coughlin and rise Wellington Mara from the grave and have him shove John Mara off the throne and claim it for himself. We should also put Peyton at the GM spot
McAdoo’s have proven to be an example of how an assistant coach who is good at his job doesn’t always make a good head coach material.
Nine years ago I watched my first ever Super Bowl, SB XLVI, it came shortly after my first ever season playing the sport and I was only 9 years old at the time. Everyone in the room figured the Patriots would win and I, of course with no knowledge of the NFL, had to go with the underdogs. At the time, I didn’t realize how great of a catch the Helmet Catch was, or how great of a play Eli made in the pocket, but even at that age I understood how momentous of an occasion I had witnessed. After this game, I have been a Giants fan ever since, I’ve had the pleasure of watching another Super Bowl win and everything that came with it. But this game gave me even more than another Lombardi Trophy. I fell in love with the game, and with Eli Manning. I know he was never the best but him and his brother gave me the inspiration to play the QB position and I did that for over six years on my junior teams and high school team. I was never particularly great and neither was our team but I loved the sport and now that I’ve recently graduated and gone to university I can approvingly say my playing days are behind me. But while my opportunities for playing are slim, the passion is still there and I’m attending university to earn the skills to become a sports journalist. That game from nine years ago has inspired me to pursue a career in following sports and Eli Manning is to thank for that. I really never thought this day would come (even though it obviously would) and I am sad that it had to happen so quick. For the Giants not to let him play the final 5 games to me is purely ridiculous. He’s done so much for the organization and even won the damn Walton Payton Man of the Year award last season. The downfall this team has had since the resignation of Tom Coughlin has been troubling. Eli Manning is the greatest QB the Giants have ever had. Thank You, Eli
Serves him right. I bet the Chargers wouldn’t have treated him this way.
Yeah they just treated their city even worse
Seeing how the Chargers have a knack for wasting talents in the playoffs whenever they get there, I’m sure Eli would rather have what happened this week with two SB rings in his resume than becoming “Ringless Eli” which doesn’t ring the same bell as “Ringless Rivers”. Also the Chargers aren’t exactly any better when it comes to how they treat their players as well.
I’ll say this: I’m really happy I live in a city now that doesn’t care much about Pro ball, or Football overall, because I officially hate my team now. I’m so angry with how Mara, Reese and McAdoo have screwed up this team over the last two years.
I haven’t watched a game all season, and I really don’t feel much need to now. They aren’t committed to winning – they’re committed to wrenching all the money they can out of Metlife Stadium.
I will honor Eli with my jerseys but once he’s gone, but once I size out of them (big weight loss here!) I don’t think I’ll be buying another piece of Giants gear for a long time to come.
Know who I really feel bad for in all this? OBJ. He had that little classless moment with the dog act, then got hurt, now his QB situation is completely unknown. I fully trust the giants to screw up tanking, and not get a good QB in the draft. He’s going to be the most talented receiver with no one throwing to him next season as it stands now, and I hope he takes his talents to a team who will respect their stars.
I just don’t get how the Giants front office can be okay with this. Eli has played for the team for 11 full season and change straight and they seriously couldn’t let him at least finish the season? What the hell do they expect to see from Geno and Web? How quickly they can get killed when strung up like a pinata and beat by pass rushers or are they trying to see if they can put on two of the worst WB preformances ever? This team isn’t good enough to evaluate anyone at QB position at this point. The only evaluation is going to be that the team was better off with Eli at the helm and now can’t go back because McAdoon’t burnt that bridge.
Eli doesn’t deserve that bullshit, I don’t like him as a player, but when the guy has never said a mean thing about anyone and had to try not to cry for Coughlin, it’s hard not to like him. I hope Eli goes to the jags
Ben McAdoo looks the guy who still sleeps on the waterbed he bought in 1987.
Ben mcAdoo looks like the guy who would get into the passenger seat of your car and adjust the side mirror so that only HE can see what’s behind.
I’m going to change my name to “John Mara’s class”.
One have to move on right? After all, John Mara thinks so.
this is the end of an era. The 2004 qb class dropped another qb. first all those busts then a descent matt schaub then rocket pop manning!! Who is next, Phillip? Ben scrapy dude is dumb and so is jerry reese , they just got fired for that reason. Sorry Dave but your giants won’t be good for years.