The Eagles QB lineup
Goddamnit Chip, why’d you have to go and do that. We had two years of Tebow free NFL and the psychosis was finally starting to die down. I even drew a comic about Tebow no longer being a big deal, and I was happy to think that it was going to be my final Tebow comic, and you ruined it, you jerk.
I don’t hate Tebow. He seems like a quality dude. As a person I’m actually happy for him, even if I fall on the opposite side of many of his personal beliefs. He’s a good guy and I don’t think he deserves any of the hate thrown at him. In 2011 I was actually rooting for him because of how entertaining his games always ended up being. It’s his rabid fanbase that I can’t stand, the people who point to a single playoff victory against a banged up Steelers team as if it’s evidence he’s better than Peyton Manning. The people who point to his 6 win streak in 2011, against literally zero teams that had a winning record, and finished with the lowest completion % of any QB that season. The people who are convinced Tebow hasn’t been given a fair chance because of his faith or whatever, and conveniently ignore the fact that several other players are just as much if not more religious than he is (Rivers, Kurt Warner, anyone who points at the sky after they score). I’m still convinced that these people are part of the reason Teebs has had a hard time finding work. Teams hate distractions, and Tebow is a distraction simply by existing, because so many people love him and hate him. If the people who liked Tebow would shut up about it and simply root for him like they would another regular player, Tebow might not be such a media circus and he might have had an easier time finding work. Teebs is (partly) a victim of his own feverish fanbase, and also the fact that he’s not that good at the footballs. He was surrounded by NFL talent at Florida and his one season of success was throwing to Eric Decker and Damaryius Thomas, with Willis McGahee in the backfield. You know, the same group of people Peyton Manning has taken to the divisional round + 3 years straight. Tebow can have all the heart in the world, at some point he needs to learn how to throw the damn ball. Until then, his fanbase will keep making terrible excuses for him.
Removing myself from the fandom issue and looking at it from a football perspective, I have two constant thoughts. Thought 1: he doesn’t make it out of preseason. He’s been out of football for 2 years, I don’t see him getting better. Thought 2: Chip might be crazy stupid enough to actually find a use for him, and now with Tebow presumably a little more humble maybe he will play an interesting wildcard role in the offense. If the Giants get Tebow’d this season I’m going to to draw a comic of me kicking a puppy and blame it on him.
The Eagles QB situation is bizarre. 3 first round picks. One is most famous for running into a butt. Another could be nicknamed Mr Glass. Tebow. Then Matt Barkley. One thing is for sure.
Matt Barkley sucks.
When the Eagles draft Mariota, the following qb battle will be gold.
On Tebow, he’s probably going to throw one touchdown pass very late in a game when Philly is down by 30+ points, and the fan base won’t stop clamoring for him, until he gets to play a whole game because of injuries, and lose all of the games he starts in (my guess is 2) for the Eagles. Then he goes back to the SEC Network and ends his Nfl career, but not before he pulls some 2011 style comeback before losing in overtime
Also, u forgot 5th string qb D.J. Kinne (who will probably be cut by draft day)
The fanatics always bugged me, but I’ve been on the Tebow train since 2011 just because it was such good entertainment. I know the opponents weren’t very good, but you could not write a better script for those games. It was the most entertaining thing on TV. Also I kind of felt like he got a raw deal with the Jets; Woody Johnson wanted him, Rex didn’t, and we all saw what happened as the guy didn’t even get 75 snaps all season on offense at any position, in spite of being behind Sanchez in the season of the Buttfumble.
I’m willing to give Tim a chance. Being out of work for two years humbles a person, and forces you to confront the problems with your capabilities – or lack thereof – in your chosen profession rather than hide behind your laurels. One thing nobody has ever been able to discount was his intangibles, work ethic included. If he’s been working with Tom House for two straight years whenever he hasn’t been commentating college football, it would not surprise me to see big improvement.
Besides, his competition at quarterback consists of Sam Bradford, who’s practically guaranteed to mis significant time, Matt Barkley, who sucks, G.J. Kinne, who’s probably going to become more of a utility player than an actual QB, and Mark Sanchez. All he realistically has to do is be better than Mark Sanchez to get a chance to start this season, and if he really has improved, then he’s definitely capable of that, especially in a system like Chip’s.
I would be willing to give Tebow a chance in the NFL, but as a Giants fan, I’m contractually obligated to hate him now…
“I’m still convinced that these people are part of the reason Teebs has had a hard time finding work”
Absolutely, and while I share much of Tebow’s perspective (particularly on faith), I don’t even mildly put that as the cause. It’s absolutely his fanbase and their CRAZINESS. They are seriously messed up in their fanatacism. And then in New Jersey, it was a pissing contest between Sexier Rexy Ryan and his GM, and Ryan just wasn’t interested at all. Fox inherited him, too, as did Elway, and neither wanted the circus, and neither wanted to develop Tebow– Fox because he just doesn’t know how to develop anything, and Elway because a Tebow success means that McDaniels wasn’t actually as horrible as the press clippings said.
However, I 100% believe that Tebow didn’t have a fair shake. John Fox is a wretched, horrendous coach and he has no clue how to use any talent around him. Tebow’s completion percentage was wretched– absolutely. Until you consider that his 20+ yard throws actually *WERE* relatively accurate (Rodgers was the only person that year with a higher completion % over 20 yards). But, unlike literally EVERY OTHER QB in the league, Tebow was throwing those at close to a 40% clip. NO ONE has a super-high completion rate on those, but that’s all Fox would let Tebow throw. The short passes were mostly horribly called and telegraphed, because John Fox is a terrible, terrible coach.
With someone who actually knows offense and quarterbacks, and a few years to develop, he may have become something. But anyone who looks at the playcalling when Tebow was in Denver and says he was given a legitimate opportunity to succeed in the NFL is delusional or just a hater for hater’s sake. Whether Tebow /deserves/ a chance for a legitimate opportunity or not is up for debate, but honestly: whether he /actually/ had a chance should not be debatable.
I agree John Fox sucks, and as a Broncos fan I’m glad he’s finally gone, but he did put Tim in position to win those games by doing what he does best..a #1 rushing offense and a top 5 defense that kept games close enough for a few big plays to win them.
John Fox can’t coach talent? So did Jake Delhomme just get retconned from history, or something? “John Fox is a bad coach” is as dumb as the “Pete Carroll was an awful NFL coach before he went to the Seahawks”. Absolutely nothing it backs it up, except for a ridiculous impression that if a team wins, it’s done completely in spite of Fox, and if they lose, it is literally all his fault. Tebow has poor accuracy, but a strong arm, so Fox made him throw deep passes for his WR to fight for big gains. His short-range accuracy was still balls, so Fox is now a terrible coach for actually trying to play to one of Tebow’s strengths.
No-one is saying John Fox is a great coach, nor even a complete coach. But a terrible one? That is such a ridiculous claim.
The Tebowmaniacs and the Tebow haters both annoy me annoy me, because craziness in general annoys me, but I actually do hope he succeeds because:
1. I hope most NFL players succeed, because most of them won’t.
2. He had tremendous athleticism but atrocious mechanics; a part of me really wants to know that it is impossible to change and improve your deeply ingrained bad habits. Because I have a pretty tremendous collection of bad habits myself.
3. I think the Tebow haters drive me crazier than the fans, because ultimately, irrational hatred strikes me as fundamentally worse than irrational love.
If the Giants get Tebow’d this season I’m going to to draw a comic of me kicking a puppy and blame it on him.
Dave, you fool! Don’t you know better than to say these things out loud? Figuratively!
There is no part of this comic I can argue with. Especially the Matt Barkley part. How the heck can someone who was slated to be a 1st rounder the year before he was drafted end up so flippin’ *TERRIBLE*? I mean, he doesn’t even have the Tebow “flashes of brilliance” or the Geno Smith “athletic gifts” or the Rex Grossman “not completely horrible” vibe. He’s just… bad.
I’m rooting for Tebow for many of the reasons others have mentioned. One thing I’ve always said about Tebow, even before he was drafted, was that there is absolutely no guarantee that he will ever be a quality NFL quarterback, but it won’t be from lack of effort. There’s plenty of people who have had the talent but flamed out in the NFL because they didn’t put in the effort, or they got paid and got lazy (FatMarcus Russell comes to mind) but you definitely can’t blame Tebow’s failure on a lack of effort. He could easily do the college football talking head routine, book speaking engagements, and lead a rich and cushy life – instead he has been busting his ass trying to make it back to the NFL.
I’m not a fanatic and I think those people are loons (as are his haters), but I’m rooting for him. It’s his last chance, I think, so I really hope it pans out for him.
The one that always bugged me was the “people only hate Tebow because he loves jeebus” comments.
As you pointed out, Kurt Warner, Russell Wilson, Rivers, lots of jesus-y players make it and are fine.
I hear this argument more from people who follow conservative pundits far more than the know anything about football!
It’s like Michael Sam… His sexual orientation had nothing to do with him not making it as an NFL starter, it’s the fact that he’s not that good (I wanted to say “he sucks” but that would have other connotations…)
Christianity might not be the right religion for Tebow at this point. Given how many times he’s been reincarnated into the NFL, he might want to look into Hinduism or Buddhism.
As a Broncos fan, good for him. As a Broncos fan, thank goodness he’s off my team. And for all those thinking he’s treated unfairly due to his religion or something…I give you Ray Lewis. Best of luck Tim, but I’m not expecting much. I know you needed a top 5 defense to get to the playoffs, and a receiver who does most of his damage in the air and after the catch. I hope Chip Kelly provides those for you.
Russell Wilson literally posts bible quotes on his twitter every day. Oh, he also has a Super Bowl ring and more playoff wins than Tim Tebow will ever get in his career.
Yes but he liked 50 Shades of Grey so he’s been officially de-baptized by the crazies and also has terrible taste in movies.
but he rode his defense
Not to be super nitpicky, but Bradford is #7 now. Also, go Tebow! Also, not an Eagles fan!
My problem with Tebow is he’s a QB who can’t throw very well and unless we went back 100 plus years that seems to be a prerequisite for playing the position.
SHUT UP AND SLAM
I just imagine Matt Barkley saying his name in the same vain as Matt Damon in Team America: World Police.
Tebow can run and has shown good agility. Those are his strengths, and should be used to it’s fullest extent. I reccomend making him a returner on Special Teams. If the Fridge could be a Running Back, Tebow could make a decent Returner. Just an opinion.
The next comic better either be Nfl Scehdule or Greg Hardy
you can hate all you want, but they’ll beat your giants twice again. with some luck, you might not get shut out in prime time. you can always hope for that.
I’m guessing that Chip Kelly has no job by the end of this year, given how much the team has fallen apart.
Let’s see:
ADDITIONS:
Tim Tebow
DeMarco Murray
Mark Sanchez (Re-signed)
Kiko Alonso
5th round draft pick
LOSSES:
Nick Foles
LeSean McCoy
Jeremy Maclin
4th round draft pick
Add in the fact that they don’t appear to be going after Mariota anymore and you have all the signs of a badly-run team with a bad GM. They traded away their star QB and RB, as well as a 4th-round draft pick, and let their #1 receiver walk, while they traded for a QB who’s torn both his ACLs and never played a full NFL season and a 5th-round draft pick, re-signed a turnover-prone QB, and signed a QB who hasn’t played a game in over 2 years.
They DID get DeMarco Murray, but he probably won’t be enough to save the sinking ship that is Chip Kelly’s Eagles.
Also, forgot to mention that Alonso is coming off a torn ACL.
Best comic ever!