The Bills Roller Coaster Of Draft Emotions
Several Bills fans mentioned having this exact experience in the comments of the previous comic. I’ve seen many other instances of this experience on the web by yet more Bills fans. It seems fitting to just straight up capture the moment here, because it’s more or less the biggest piece of first round hilarity. Of course, this comic may eventually come back to look hilarious in hindsight, but we’ll have to wait to find out.
I’m not much of a scout but by the end even I got pretty skeptical of Josh Allen as a prospect. History seems to offer many examples of the “Physical specimen” with the “Big arm” who just had all the physical tools necessary to be a stud…but actually kinda sucks. Bortles feels like the most recent example of “Guy who looks the part but might not actually be any good”. Bort has improved, but he’s nothing special. If there is any QB in this draft class that screams bust, it’s Josh Allen.
His accuracy sucked. His decision making sucked. His competition mostly sucked and he still didn’t cream them. But damn can he throw the ball real good! Coaches just love the idea of the perfectly shaped specimen that they can teach over the guy who can play but has some physical limits. I guess when you have a system you’d rather find a guy you can plug in and teach than work around a guy with a specific set of strengths. Josh Allen is a giant golem, ready to be molded to Sean McDermott’s whims.
I don’t think the Bills are the right fit for Allen. I don’t know if this Bills team is a good fit for Allen. This is the team that couldn’t develop Tyrod into something slightly better, despite Tyrod being their best QB in a decade. This is the coaching staff that decided Tyrod should sit for Nathan Peterman, he of the 5 first half INTs.
I got a lot of flack from a few Bills fans for pointing this out, saying that “at the time” the decision was correct and only looks bad in hindsight. I disagree with this line of logic. At the time Tyrod had just come off his worst performance (against the Saints, who ended up being very good) and it felt like the Bills panicked. It was incredibly obvious to anyone watching that game that Nathan Peterman was not ready to be the starter yet. As a coach, you have to make the decisions to put your team in the best position to win. Hindsight is a valuable tool. That move was proven to be quite the mistake, and it reflects poorly on McDermott as a coach. You could argue “If Peterman had played well Sean would have looked like a genius” but that’s not what happened. The move was proven to be the wrong choice at the time. Don’t defend a bad decision on the result in some alternate universe where Nathan Peterman wasn’t in over his head and didn’t suck total balls. Tyrod wasn’t playing good football but playing Peterman instead was not a good decision.
So I’m skeptical this is the situation that Josh Allen belongs in. Maybe he’ll turn out pretty good and this comic will become ironically hilarious. But at this point I think it’s fair to be a little suspicious.
For the record this is what I expect out of the 1st round QB class, with almost no expertise whatsoever:
Sam Darnold – basically Andy Dalton
Baker Mayfield – flashes greatness on occasion but never quite puts it all together and fades away after a couple years
Josh Allen – busts struggles to earn starts in his second year
Josh Rosen – looks pretty good but can’t stop getting hurt and becomes a “what could have been” scenario.
Lamar Jackson – totally owns bones…in two years when he finally starts.
EDIT: This comic is really funny in retrospect from 2020
Worst QB in the draft by a landslide
lol
He’s Brock Osweiler Jr. and I have yet to come across anything that makes me believe that he’ll be anything else.
He looks more like DeShone Kizer, part 2 to me. Looks the part, good athlete, cannon arm, accuracy issues, bad footwork, knows where to put the ball but can’t put it there on a consistent basis.
We will make Josh Allen the greatest qb of all time! That’ll teach you draft nerds to count the Bill’s failures before they bust!
Welp lol
this comic reminds me of jets fans reaction video
The New York Jets first round selection…fullback
OOOOOOH NOOOOOOOOOO
Roger Vick, texas a&m
You’re welcome for the comic idea :p
I am trying to psych myself up for this pick but it is the longest shot of longshots here.
That’s how I felt the past two drafts. Last year, I wanted them to get Malik Hooker. He seemed like a really good DB, could read the QB well, and can rush the pass and force interceptions. Instead, they went with Mike “Always Injured” Williams. The Chargers are notorious for sending players to IR, and Williams was out all of his sophomore and part of junior year. Plus, we already had Keenan Allen, Tyrell Williams, Hunter Henry, and Antonio Gates (RIP), so we didn’t need anymore help, but whatever. He could evolve into a starter, but probably just going to be a solid backup.
With regards to the 2015 pick, when we had the 3rd overall pick, I wanted the Chargers to get Jalen Ramsey. That year we lost Eric Weddle. We had no secondary up until that point, and I wanted to replace it as quickly as possible. However, they got Joey Bosa. I’m not at all trashing that pick, it was in the short run a great pick. In the long run, things don’t look good. It took pretty much the whole offseason to construct Bosa’s contract, and once it’s expired, I’m not sure if he’s going to stay. He wants to win, in his seasons have been 5-11 and 9-7 with no playoff appearances. Going to be nerve racking towards the end of his contract, but I’m just going to sit back and root for him while we have him.
The fact that the Browns and Ravens both drafted a QB in the first round makes it an approximately 1000% certainty that Mayfield is going to bust and Lamar Jackson is winning at least one Super Bowl.
I think they just picked him up to replace the void left by Incognito. What other white guy on their team is gonna drop N bombs?
You judging him for quoting rap lyrics in high school?
Riley Cooper
And yes Panthers fan, Breesus was doing criticizing an adult for actions in he did in high school.
Our hopes lie in the fact that he has been working with Jordan Palmer and he already has shown significant improvement, evidenced at the senior bowl. Also, all he needed was one extra completion per game or something like that and he would be at 62% completion. He comes from a pro style offense with very few checkdowns, which also skewed his completion percentage.
Also I agree with Dave’s analysis for everyone but Rosen and Mayfield. I think Rosen is the next Jay Cutler. Talented enough to be a starter, but always rubs people the wrong way. Depending on the O-coordinator for the Browns either Mayfield will look really bad or really good.
It’s the Browns. We know how this is going to end up.
No, they’re actually trying to win this year.
Pretty sure they said the same thing last year as well.
Jimmy Haslam said in January of 2017 that wins and losses didn’t matter.
Thye lost theyreconly good player. They don’t win more than 2 at most, and a meteor would have to hit Cincy AND put Dalton on primetime twice
Honestly, I think the best QB in this draft won’t be one taken in the first round. Lauletta, Rudolph, or maybe Etling, since the Patriots always seem to find a QB they can develop and trade. Of the first round QB’s, Jackson falls into a decent situation. I say that because I believe coaching staff and scheme are more important for QB development than talent surrounding them. Rosen, Allen, and Darnold are all joining newer staffs (in Darnold’s case, a newer staff possibly in the next few seasons). Mayfield could be in the same boat. But I like what Cleveland is doing so I think he may wind up being ok. And to be clear, being OK in CLEVELAND is pretty darn good.
Flowers
#LetQCook oh, wait, wrong blog
Dave, so which of your QB predictions would you have wanted the Giants to pick at #2? Andy Dalton 2.0?
I honestly had no real opinion as Im not much of a scout, but I would have liked Rosen, Darnold, or Jackson. Jackson maybe the most, that would be a new and exciting offense compared to Eli’s pocket style that Ive watched for years
Watching the Giants screw the pooch by not trading up for Jackson devastated me. I was calling for it from the 20s. Jackson with a good organisation (both the Ravens and Giants qualify imo) will be a success. Plus there’s no better broken field receiver than Odell, he’d thrive with a QB who could keep the ball alive.
Dave that’s not true. Your opinion is real.
Wait until the Jets mess up their QB prospect again.
They drafted a qb from USC. We all saw what happened last time they did that
You should have had the Bills Fan smash the table instead of just flipping it over #BillsMafia
Seconded. He should have powerbombed himself through it.
I love it when you bring up Nathan Peterman’s 5 interceptions in a half, Dave. It brings a smile to my face every time. You keep it up, and I’ll need to find a new user name.
This happened in the bar I was in. Guy heard Josh and went “whooo!” Then they showed Allen walk up onto the stage and he said “Ah, shit!”
For the record the only people at the time that Peterman was going to start who defended the decision were Bills fans. Never heard an analyst online or on TV say this was a good idea beforehand. No hindsight was needed.
“For the record this is what I expect out of the 1st round QB class, with almost no expertise whatsoever:
Sam Darnold – basically Andy Dalton
Baker Mayfield – flashes greatness on occasion but never quite puts it all together and fades away after a couple years
Josh Allen – busts struggles to earn starts in his second year
Josh Rosen – looks pretty good but can’t stop getting hurt and becomes a “what could have been” scenario.
Lamar Jackson – totally owns bones…in two years when he finally starts.”
ESPN needs an analyst. These predictions are about as realistic as anything they’ve suggested pre and post draft, and to be honest, Baker Mayfield is closer to being Johnny Football than anything else.
Of the remaining 4, read : Tom Savage , Nathan Peterman , Patrick Mahomes, DeShone Kizer. Thats their future, not one of them screams greatness to me either through their college records or their tape.
It’s funny to think that Patrick Mahomes was once known as “he’s probably not that good, he couldn’t beat out Alex smith”
You forgot one: Quienton Flowers, becomes a punt returner in the NAL (where J’ville is sucking right now at 1-3). Also, Zona’s running back ran for 11 tds last week. I’m too lazy to make videos anymore.
Love the shirt change.
Looking like this is a cold take after just one season.
called lamar jackson so hard holy shit
Ice cold take
dave please revisit this one when 17 brings the lombardi home to buffalo
Well this comic (and a number of its comments) has aged like hot milk lol