So Many QB Options For Chicago
Won’t someone think about poor Mitch?
I do genuinely feel bad for Mitch “kissin titties” Trubisky. He was basically the poster boy easy dunk for bad QB this past season and didn’t take the leap forward that he needed to take to justify moving forward with him as the starter. It wasn’t hard to point to the QB situation in Chicago as one of the main reasons the Bears disappointed in 2019. Trubes likely has to go. Apparently the Bears one successful season in 2018 was largely due to gimmicks in offense, that’s a bad sign that Mitch can’t play QB like a QB should.
I didn’t follow the lead-up to the 2017 draft at all. You can tell because I never made “true” cards for them as I never had time. When the draft happened and the Bears moved up to draft Trubisky I had no frame of reference for if that was good or not. I remember most of the discourse being about how the Bears got fleeced by the 49ers and new GM John Lynch, since the 49ers didn’t want Mitch and got their guy Solomon Thomas anyway. Hindsight makes this trade really funny because really nobody won it. Mitch is basically a bust now. Solomon Thomas is a bust. The other picks they got in the trade? One was traded to New Orleans (who used it to pick Alvin Kamara lol). One was traded to the Seahawks to move up in the draft to select Rueben Foster (Who was hurt and then in legal trouble and is now on the Skins), and a 2018 3rd rounder, who ended up being Fred Warner, who is good. I guess Fred is just good enough to say the 49ers won in the end but they ultimately really wasted the haul the Bears offered.
Obviously in hindsight drafting Tits Smoocher over Sherlock Mahomes and Watson was a colossally stupid move but that’s what’s fun about hindsight. I remember a lot of buzz around Trubes and it was very much because he looked the part where as Mahomes and Watson were “unusual AKA injury risks” with “Playstyles that might not translate” and also “we aren’t racist but look at them, they are black”. I really hope that this era of giving people the job because they look like typical QBs can finally end. We appear to be entering a new mobile QB era now as the old statue guard is retiring and the new guard is people like Wilson, Mahomes, Jackson, and maybe Murray. Even Jones, bland and typical as he is, has wheels as part of his resume. Even Cam might not be done quite yet, you never know. I am excited for these fun new times. RG3 died so that these fellas could run.
I made this post to talk about Trubisky and now I’ve gone and wandered off for two paragraphs so you know what? Trubisky can eat it, Blog Over. Sign Andy Dalton, Bears. Make the same mistakes you always do.
“We aren’t racist, but look at them, they *are* black”
Hopefully that attitude keeps dying out one draft class at a time.
Hopefully he’ll land on a team where he can look good without being very good. Basically, surround him with weapons where he can sling it and cash in on the gaudy stats of his receivers and, potentially, his runningback(s)
Sooooooo…. Tittyboy to the Browns? Chuck 50/50 balls to Landry and OBJ all day? OBJs already proven he can make a mediocre declining QB look decent 😛 (plz no ban Dave, is just jooooke)
I thought RG3 died because he was a moron who didn’t know how to workout or when to avoid taking a helmet to the knee?
Mitchy Biscuit wasn’t worth the draft pick they wasted on him.
I like Andy Dalton to the Bears. It’s like Tannehill to the Titans.
I think Sexy Rexy would be a good fit
Heh. Malort. Nice local reference.
Came here to say this.
I too appreciate this. My office is around the corner from the distillery that sells Malort bottles, including the little 50ml samplers to help with flight anxiety.
One of my friend’s name is Paten, but he goes by Mitch. And he is a very good lacrosse player.
We aren’t racist butt.
I really wanted the Saints to get Watson, but thought Sean Payton might waste him. I guess Payton wanted Mehomes, but again I can’t imagine Mehomes only having Tedd Ginn deep or running a million predictable screens every game. Despite Sean’s reputation as a playcaller I can’t remember the last time the Saints scored outside the first two drives of the half (scripted by Payton/Brees) or the end of halves (called by Brees). I’m dubious.
I think that’s honestly because Drew has really fell off more than people think. His arm strength is not what it was 3 years ago. Payton has actually done a fantastic job of covering that up with playcalling. It also helps to have all the offensive playmakers that they have. The Saints use to be more of a go deep kind of team. But that’s not really the case anymore. With eitehr of those other QB’s, I think Payton builds an offense to accentuate their strengths. Don’t believe me? Look how much the offense changed to fit Teddy last year. They played to his strengths.
I still think that Brees and Teddy outplayed the called plays. Payton even has admitted as such in the past about Brees. I think Watson and Mehomes have those qualities as well, but I think Mehomes with Reid is better and I think Watson will be great no matter what.
I just wonder about the feasibility of a huddle based, under center offense. I also can’t forget the 5 years of wasted possessions getting too cute running up the gut 3 times in a row for 0 yards, running predictable screens, or running pointless reverses (my favorite was the time he called one for Colston).
Agree about Brees arm strength, but have to wonder a little bit if the Saints have the right personel to go deep.
Shoutout to the Panthers for breaking all the barriers with a black quarterback and white running back. (And they HAD a Hispanic head coach.)
I want to see them draft an Asian corner just for the hell of it.
I went back and looked at the cards and Dave had scribbled “Reach” on Mahomes. That didn’t age well, but that’s most draft stuff in general, so I can’t blame him.
Every draft takes is terrible in hindsight.
I mean… that was the general consensus at the time, not some red hot glowing take. Especially after it became clear that they would sit him a year behind Smith. Youd be looking for a looong looong time during that season for someone to predcit that Kermit would light the league on fire his first starting year and win the Superb Owl in 2.
Look if you think a QB is your guy, you take him with your first round pick, even if everyone else thinks it is a reach. Trubisky didn’t just ‘look the part’, he also completed 68% of his passes in college. Unfortunately for the Bears it turns out the consensus was right on this one. It’s ok; busts happen.
What you can not do is trade two 3rds and a 4th to move up from number 3 overall to number 2 overall to take the guy widely regarded as the 3rd best quarteback in the class. That is just wasting resources because you’ve become blindly fixated on your original plan. Even if someone had traded with San Francisco to get ahead of Chicago and draft a quarterback, that still leaves the other two guys. Heck even if the Browns had taken a quarterback and San Francisco traded out, the Bears still would have been guaranteed a shot at one of Trubisky, Mahomes, or Watson.
If your scouting department thinks True Biscuits is the best guy you don’t care that other organisations or the media think Watson or Mahomey are better (not that anyone actually thought that about Mahomes at the time and to be honest I don’t think we’d see Mahomes as the best QB of his class if Andy Reid hadn’t got his flippers on him)
It is also worth wondering if the bears would be better with Trubiscy, Alvin Kamara, Fred Warner, and Tedric Thompson. Those three guys are who was picked with the picks they give up. It’s not a Qbs fault if a team gives up a lot of potential talent to get them.
Heck, the redskins gave up the picks that became OT Greg Robinson, LB Alec Ogletree, WR Stedman Bailey, RBs Zac Stacy and Isaiah Pead, DT Michael Brockers, CB Janoris Jenkins and G Rokevious Watkins for RG3. That is a ton of players who might have took some of the load off a young quarterback
I know there is important football business to make fun of, but I hope you can make time to depict the maple leafs’ inability to overcome their own zamboni driver at the net.
Sure he had gotten a bit of hype, but even before the draft everybody was confused as to why. He didn’t play all that well in college, for a not-so-great program, that didn’t win that much. I distinctly remember laughing uncontrollably in a Chicago bar when he got picked as everybody around me either did the same or shouted “what the fuck?!” It may not be the worst draft pick in history but it’s got to be one of the worst draft trades of all time
Personally I loved the 2017 draft cards. The one where it’s just ‘HIS ACTUAL FACE – OH MY GOD’ never fails to make me laugh.
Allen deserves mention in the new generation of mobile QBs
As a life long Bears fan, I can attest that I have zero surprise the Bears F-d up another QB draft.
Trubisky busting came as no surprise to UNC fans. He was a one-year starter behind Marquise Williams who was a significantly better college QB (career trajectory involved the Packers practice squad followed by the San Antonio Commanders during the short-lived AAF), and he didn’t even look that good, he was clutch in the 4th quarter throwing to an insanely stacked (for college) WR roster of Ryan Switzer, Mack Hollins, Bug Howard, and Elijah Hood out of the backfield.
When UNC fans are clamoring for Watson to go first off the board, don’t trust the Tits.
Btw the Seahawks didn’t draft Rueben Foster, the Niners did.
He’s saying they traded their pick to the Seahawks so they could move up and draft Foster, not that Foster was drafted by the Seahawks.
I remember thinking when they traded up one spot that they must REALLY be afraid someone is going to move ahead of them to get Watson. Then they took Trubisky, and I immediately thought he was a prime candidate to follow the Bortles story arc (up and down first year, great second year mostly due to a strong defense and running game, crashing down to earth third year, and speculation about needing to move on starting in the fourth year).
Bortles, Winston, Wentz, Trubisky, Allen, and Jones are all guys that went in the top 10 because they looked the part and were at least close to the 6’5″ 240 lb prototypical size with some functional athleticism. The physical tools trump the issues, whether it’s accuracy/turnovers (Bortles, Winston, Allen), lack of production (Trubisky, Jones, kind of Wentz) or injury concerns (definitely Wentz). Wentz is the only one of that group that looks likely to live up to his physical potential, assuming that physical potential isn’t limited by the presence of a cast, crutch, or sling.
I think the trend has started moving towards production with Mayfield and Murray going #1 the last couple years and Tua and Burrow likely to go ahead of the newest heir to the Physical Tools Crown, Herbert (who I can only assume will go in the top 10 to the Chargers, have an up and down first season, look good in his second year backed by a rising Chargers defense, and then have such a disappointing third season that they begin to wonder if they should go back to the QB well in 2023).
So it goes.
I mostly agree with all of this except I’d argue Jordan Love is right there with Herbert in the running for this year’s “He had a bad season but just look at his physical tools!” candidate. Love has bigger hands, a stronger arm, is a bit more mobile, and has plenty of highlight reel throws. He also threw 20 touchdowns against 17 picks and has really, really bad field vision/decision-making. Which is why I’m terrified the Colts will take him towards the top of the second round, on paper he’s the perfect “sit for a year behind a bridge QB and learn” guy, but there’s no telling if he would wind up turning into the next Rodgers/Mahomes or if his decision making would still suck after taking over the reins from Brissett.
I think we’re at the point where a lack of mobility is a mark AGAINST a quarterback, actually. I dunno if pass rushers are getting better or O linemen are getting worse but it seems like every qb that doesn’t extend the play on his own power gets a one way ticket to sacksonville (no not that one). Brady had more sacks than touchdowns last year and he’s basically the poster child for getting the ball out quickly without having to run from defenders.
lol they just signed andy dalton year late tho