Reaching The Youth
I had never played a single Final Fantasy game before a few months ago when I decided to give the FF7 remakes a shot. I spent most of my time enjoying myself but I didn’t like the combat. It felt like a weird mix where it wasn’t quite turn-based and it wasn’t quite active. I know some people dig it but I found myself wishing it was either real-time or fully turned-based the entire time. I enjoyed the games well enough but I quickly bumped the difficulty down to easy because if I’m not gonna enjoy the combat I may as well blow through it so I can get back to the stuff I do like, like character interactions and story quests. ALSO, because it’s important: Team Tifa.
I give FF7 Remake a 6/10 and Rebirth a 7/10. I enjoyed the freedom and game more in Rebirth. As someone who never played the OG game and only knew a bit of the story through cultural osmosis…it was good and occasionally confusing.
I have no point here, I just had the shower thought one day that Football has a turn-based combat system. Maybe it’s a bit closer to an RTS system?
I feel that football has a combat system more like Unicorn Overlord, at least from a coaching perspective. You tell this group to go do that thing…and then you hope for the best.
Have a bash at VI – last of the 16-bit releases. And go in for the story – it’s still right the way up there in the FF pantheon.
(Team Celes.)
I once described football you bunch of my fellow and nerds as a turn based strategy game where the pieces control themselves. Actually got some of them interested in learning the rules.
I think calling it an RTS is a little more accurate, just bc there is a ticking clock throughout the whole game, since even when a timeout is called, you still have the play clock.
Baseball, now THERE’S a game with turn-based combat.
Also Jon Bois’ tweets about XCOM are some of my all-time favorites, given that XCOM 2 is one of my favorite games of all time
Yeah, I feel like if we’re doin a nerd about game types as turn-based, the definition would have to have some kind of limitation. Like your idea, baseball, or others like it volleyball or tennis etc. where only one ‘team’ can possibly score points at a time. Your “turn” to attack and score points against the defender who is stuck defending. One could *argue* that football’s interception is a ‘counter’ while on defense but I can’t think of any other meaningful way to shove turn-based into a live action sport. I’m gonna have to get blazed if i want to think about this more.
>Team Tifa
This is the only correct answer Dave. You clearly embody both taste and class. Aerith? the unwashed masses can have her. Gimme my BFF boxing warrior woman!
Yuffie > Tifa > Aerith
I like the Aerith the remake introduced, the one that swears and hits people with folding chairs, rather than the ridiculous saintly version people had in their heads for God knows how long. Tifa is very underappreciated by comparison though.
First child abuse comic since 2018. Yay!
I don’t know which scenario I’d prefer to be true:
1.) That you knew this information off hand.
or
2.) It was important enough that you went through the archives and checked.
Apparently you didn’t notice that Dave put a “child abuse” tag on it, all you have to do is click the tag and see all the other ones. No memory or archive trolling required.
Loved the Final Fantasy games through the PS1 age but every attempt I’ve made since then has left me wanting. I am at the phase of my gaming life where the nostalgia of the retro JRPG’s call to me, but I have to acknowledge I no longer have the time to commit to them like I once did.
With that said FF9 is my favorite main title, Final Fantasy Tactics is my favorite story and combat style, and Suikoden was my favorite non-FF JRPG. Thoughts?
> the retro JRPG
The combination of you starting with FF7, yet calling them retro hits hard.
(Team Sabin)
Kind of reminds me of Valkyria Chronicles where it’s turn-based, but you actually get to pilot your characters during their turn in a pseudo-3rd person shooter style. Great bunch of games!
Blood Bowl(tabletop or digital) probably comes closest to replicating the turn-based/simultaneous action of football, even if it’s a bit more like rugby. Definitely not for everyone, but I’ve enjoyed my time.
Generation X here & the only word that made any sense to me was football. Anyone want to play Asteroids with me?
Technically with time outs, football is closer to a real-time with pause RPG like Baldur’s Gate.
At least with football you can point at the TV & say ‘Can’t stop now! Look! There’s only five more minutes left in the game!’
Gen X here. The last games I played circa 2000-02 were Half Life and Civilization: Call to Power. Then I 1) discovered online poker and 2) realized I didn’t want to be the middle aged guy who had spent that much of his life playing video games. It was the right call for me but VMMV.
My personal favorite Final Fantasy is FFV. Not the most complex story but really fun job system and fights.
(Team Exdeath)
Fun fact, Final Fantasy XII’s gambits were inspired by the NFL: https://youtu.be/tNRkVUVg6mU?t=2838
I thought this had to be BS. I mean, how popular is the NFL in Japan? So the one guy in Japan who is big into the NFL happened to working on FF12. What are the odds?
The FFVII Remake/Rebirth/TBA trilogy are technically alternate timeline sequels to the original FFVII. It’s likely confusing to you having not played the original game since it gets pretty meta with that. I’d highly recommend playing the original FFVII which has a great story that’s far less convoluted.