Mitch Trubisky Panders to Chicago
So lets talk about the trash fire that is the Chicago Bears. We can start with Mitch Trubisky and the draft situation.
Lets call it a mess. Chicago trades a bunch of stuff to move up a single spot to get the consensus #1 QB, but not a sure fire prospect like most #1 QB prospects. That’s fine, whatever. If the guy pans out then it was worth it, right? Mitch might be a stud one day. I give him points for his attempt to pander to Chicago by saying Walter Payton was his favorite player growing up. That might even be true. I don’t think anyone buys that for a second, but you never know. I’m not here to pass much judgement on Trubisky.
I’m more fascinated by everything else. The Bears have been a dump for a few years. It’s not all their fault (the recent two 1st round rookies have been hurt) but this is a bad team. A bad team that fired a bad coach, only to install John Fox, possibly a worse coach. John Fox is good at power run games and that’s about it these days. He’s a conservative old coot who’s best days are long behind him. Fox apparently did not know about the plan to draft Trubes. Ryan Pace, the GM, in the process of drafting Trubes, was revealed to essentially been betting against himself as first time GM and former D-list commentator John Lynch outwitted him. Pace got played. Fox didn’t even know Trubes was the plan. Now tell me, in what world has the coach and GM not being on the same page ever really worked out in the end? This has all the makings of a future implosion. The Bears aren’t even much to implode, and it still feels like it could get worse.
On top of this, the Bears also already grabbed a QB. It was Mike Glennon, which was a hilarious crap move to begin with. Glennon is a neck and not much else, but that’s fine. The team is not a QB away from greatness. They have no receivers. They have no defense. The Bears right now are a good O-line and a good RB. Glennon has no expectations. This is the perfect time for Pace to grab defense, to stack picks, to build the team around Glennon for a few years, then dump his neck and go all in for a QB. But I think Pace is worried for his job, so the Bears mortgaged some of their future on Trubes, which made Glennon upset, and if Trubes doesn’t pan out will result in an implosion. Even if Trubisky is a good player, the Bears are so bad that it may not matter.
I’m just waiting for the moment everything finally blows up. The Bears have quietly slid into dumpster fire status over the past few seasons. All their star power left. They are a dull and uninteresting team. The front office seems at odds with the out of date coach. The team is a wreck. Their future drafts are damaged. It’s going to get blown up, and I’d wager things get ugly before the season is over.
Also Chicago Deep Dish is delicious but it’s not Pizza.
Their amazing hot dogs however, are sandwiches.
Come at me.
There’s been nothing quiet about the slide into dumpster fire status. It’s been loud and in our faces.
Deep dish is pizza (referring to the tag)
I really hope Mitch works out for them, he’s an Ohio guy so I have to like him a little
Correction, deep dish pizza is actually just an above ground pool filled with marinara sauce. And there’s no way this turns out good for Mitch or the Bears. Expect to see them on Hard Knocks next year, I’m sure it will be a treat.
Above ground pool
Ok Mark. Are you even gonna play this year
you think the bears got taken to the cleaners for the titty kisser, look at the texans:
Browns get: Jabrill Peppers, 2018 first round pick, 2018 second round pick, 2018 6th round pick, Oswelier
Texans get: Deshaun Watson, 2018 4th round pick
The only way that trade doesn’t turn into a complete browns flexing is if DeShawn Watson turns into Brady, Peppers and the 2018 picks all weed hemselves out to Canada/Colorado 4:20s, and the Browns trade Osweiler and their first back to houston for a 7th.
But yeah, the Browns schooled Houston better than San Francisco schooled the Bears.
Yeah, the Texans got swindled. The Bears gave up two thirds and a fourth. Also Trubisky was seriously the consensus#1? I still have a hard time believing that.
Yeah but at least the Texans achieved their objective: dumping Osweiler’s salary.
The Bears gave up picks for literally nothing—there was nobody trying to trade up to 49ers’ spot and they didn’t want Mitchell T.
The Browns swindling another team is like somebody making bank in the stock market, then inexplicably blowing their earnings in 3 years or less and ending up poorer than the rest of us.
The Browns got an all pro from the Patriots for a third round comp. They traded a bust who’s done nothing to the patriots for a fifth round pick. They traded a bust who’s done less than nothing to their biggest rival for a sixth round pick and he did even less for the Steelers than he did for the Browns. They turned a punter into a fourth round pick and another punter. They turned what may or may not be a franchise QB into eleven picks over three years, including six picks in the first two rounds, and have gotten at least four starters and three quality backups so far out of it. They turned a fourth round pick and what may or may not be a starting QB into a starting safety, a first, a second, and a trade chip..
I think we’re missing the real winner of the Deshaun Watson trade: Deshaun Watson. The Texans last year had a dominant, #1 defense in spite of missing JJ Watt, a thousand yard rusher in Miller who’s joined by a 2,000 yard college battering ram in D’Onta Foreman, a top flight receiver – and another Clemson alum – in Hopkins to go along with an outside burner like Fuller, and to top it all off, Houston exists in the shadow of Dallas in the NFL, so he won’t be buried by the media monster of a gigantic market or an historic franchise.
Going to the Texans gives him a surrounding cast that’s stacked, a market where he won’t be crucified for a rough start, and a team that was good enough to make the playoffs with Brock Osweiler last year. He can relax, adjust to the NFL, take it at a comfortable pace, and adapt without any serious pressure.
Indeed. The absolute best situation for a rookie QB is to go to a team that it’s evident, all they need is a QB and they’ll be in the playoffs and contending. 2011 Seahawks, 2015 Cowboys (Romo was still on the team but on IR), 2016 Texans. Watson is set up to succeed like Russell Wilson was.
Wilson had Lynch. Prescott had Zeke. Who is going to be that guy for Watson?
No Lynch or Zeke, but the Texans did still manage to have a top 10 rushing attack despite having almost no threat in the passing game (29th in yards, not even 200 passing yards a game).
Well, Lamar Miller posted 1,073 yards this past season, and like Xhoven said, the Texans overall were a top-ten rushing team at 8th in the league. That’s in spite of facing constantly loaded boxes because nobody in the league was afraid of Brock Osweiler or Tom Savage, because why would they be? At absolute worst, Watson will be a sidegrade to the two of them from the pocket, and while he’s no Mike Vick, he brings athleticism they never had to extend a play, and salvage a broken one either by rushing or by scrambling. An actual threat at QB means defenses can’t just load up against the run, which means a top-ten ground attack should only get better.
Meanwhile, into that already-top-ten backfield, they’ve added one of the top rushers in college last year, D’Onta Foreman, who notched a 2,000-yard season at Texas, in spite of having no help whatsoever at QB, and a roughly average offensive line to block for him. While he likely won’t post more yards than the year in the NFL, that kind of production, especially the power he brings in short yardage, gives a solid change-of-pace compared to the faster, shiftier Miller.
While he won’t have quite the ground game that Seattle or Dallas gave their rookies, everything else is there for Watson, including a dominant defense, and while they did lose AJ Bouye, I think his loss is at least balanced out by getting back a guy who’s won three of the last five DPotY awards.
It is a delicious casserole. A pizza casserole. It is not, in any way, a pizza.
But yeah, the Bears got fleeced to move up one pick.
You forgot “Lot of dead people”
I’ve never been to Chicago, but if the Chicago style hot dog from Steak & Shake (better than Five Guys, In & Out, and your favorite local burger joint) is anything close to authentic, then Chicago hot dogs (which, along with their pizza, is inferior to NYC hot dogs) require a fork and knife
Calzones>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pizza Hut BBQ beef>local NYC pizza joints>>>anything else the big delivery chains (Pizza Hut, Domino’s, and Papa John’s) have to offer> Chicago Deep Dish>>>>>>>Little Caesars.
Calzones are God Tier like Brawl Meta Knight
Deep dish isn’t even a casserole, it’s a greasy mess
If you practice something religiously, it’s a religion.
If you do something scientifically, is a science.
If you do something artistically, it’s an art.
If you eat Chicago deep dish like a pizza, it’s a pizza.
If you eat a hot dog like a sandwich, is a sandwich.
Those hot dogs are amazing. No shout out to the Italian beef sandwich though? I’d eat one of those over a pizza or a hot dog any day.
You cant eat chicago deep dish pizza like a pizza though
Not with that attitude.
If you grab a slice of Chicago deep dish “pizza” and fold it—as you would a real pizza—you’re going to end up with tomato soup all over your hands and clothes. No one wants that. Therefore, it is not pizza.
Look, I’m sorry friend, but if you fold up your pizza to eat it, then that’s just disgusting. Savor that shit. I don’t even fold up my pizza when I’m eating “normal” pizza.
I was hoping someone would bring up the Italian beef. There’s a food joint near me that is run by Chicago transplants and serves Chicago fare, and the “wet” Italian beef sandwich with sweet peppers is the best thing on the menu. I’m getting hungry just thinking about it…
Trubisky could have gone with Urlacher, I guess, but I’d give him a pass on Payton. It’s not like the Bears have had a quarterback he could lie about liking in his or his father’s lifetime and Payton highlights are still regularly played… certainly more so than highlights of Neal Anderson, Anthony Thomas, or even Matt Forte.
In any case, an honest answer probably would have been Joe Thomas and that might have gotten him some respect there.
Pizza goes crust, sauce, cheese. Anything else is an abomination.
Crust, sauce, cheese, ham, pineapple, cherries. Gotcha.
Uhhhh the reports that Fox didn’t know about Trubisky or the trade are objectively false and have all ready been rescinded. Also they traded down in the second and recouped most of their picks. Essentially, they traded a 3rd next year to 100% get their guy. Bears were fielding offers from teams moving up for 3 (and presumably Trubisky), so the trade up makes sense in that context; since the Bears turned other teams (Browns?)down at 3, the other teams will try to get 2 to get Mitchell. Idk, a 2018 3rd round pick for the number 1 QB isn’t as bad as what the Texans or Chiefs did for less. I know the Bears aren’t good, but I don’t think this move deserved as much scrutiny as it got, especially for Chicago, a place where Don’t Care Bear holds every QB record. Also Trubisky has college photos of him wearing Sweetness’ jersey, so that’s also not as pandering as it came off.
Also Chicago style pizza is god tier, you plebeian hack job
I stopped reading when you implied Fox is worse than Trestman.
The Bears situation is interesting because of all the miscommunication, but the trade itself was not bad at all, two thirds and a fourth to grab a potential franchise QB is peanuts. Look at what KC and Houston gave up to move up (granted, to move up a lot more) in comparison. However, the 49ers definitely made out like bandits to pick up the #1 and 2 players (outside of Garrett) on their board, the MMQB article inside their draft room was fascinating. As a Browns fan, I’m very happy with the results from this year’s draft (seems like Caleb Brantley has plenty of evidence and witnesses on his side as well, but if he’s cut is only a sixth rounder) but the best part is that by picking up Kizer late in the second, it’s in no ways a commitment to prevent moving up to get a QB like Sam Darnold or Josh Rosen next year, especially with two first round picks.
Two thirds and a fourth is equivalent value to a mid first. It’s a lot more than the Browns gave up to move from 4 to 3 for Richardson.
John Fox is not worse than Trestman. Nobody is worse than Trestman
I would rather have Jim Tomsula coach my team than Marc Trestman. I’ve been a Bears fan throughout a lot of shitty Bears teams, I’ve never felt embarrassed about it until 2014.
In Trubisky’s defense, two of my brother’s favorite athletes growing up were Roberto Clemente (died 10 years before he was born) and Jim Thorpe (died 29 years before he was born) because of all the inspirational stories about them. I could see it being the same for Trubisky and Walter Payton. Trubisky would have grown up with Brian’s Song, the Walter Payton award, and the books about him. It’s easy to make him your hero.
It probably is pandering but you never know. I’m named after a guy who played his last game in 1943. That being said though, the John Fox didn’t know about Trubisky rumor is nonsense. It started by Kevin Seifert saying that Chris Mortenson said so. That is the entire evidence. Something someone said Mortenson said. Except he never said what Seifert said he said. He tweeted the exact opposite later that day, talking about how involved Fox was with Pace’s plans.
When was the last time the Bears had a good QB?
In all fairness, Jay Cutler is “good”. He was decent, but he could only ever scratch the surface.
Before that? Who the hell knows lol
I do know Jim McMahon is perhaps the most overrated. The Bears fans like to fellate the guy and were even delusional enough to claim that had he been healthy, the Bears would have repeated in 1986, ignoring that he threw 5 tds and 8 picks in the 6 games he played. One of the backups threw 2 tds and 10 picks and he went 7-0 that year. It’s going to catch up to them sooner or later as they were better off with Flutie that time. Makes me wonder where the Bears offense would have been if they didn’t have Walter Payton to hand the ball off too.
I wonder if you’re going to do one for Oher. Normally it would have been ignored but being that he was a movie character, it makes a good idea for a sequel.
Off topic, but who else is looking forward to a Fox Sports Don’t Care Bear butt comic?