Landon Collins Heads To The Free Agency Pub
Landon Collins will not be franchised, or extended, and will hit free agency. This has left a lot of people confused.
I have mixed feelings. Long feelings short, I would have preferred to keep him, but I’m surprised or shocked we’re letting him walk. I just wish we had traded him earlier this season when we would have gotten a return for him. This feels like a waste. But letting him walk isn’t necessarily the wrong move. As a player I think he’s pretty overrated. I can say that because I’ve watched him for 4 years as a Giants fan, which makes me more qualified than you. It’s just science.
Lets break Collins down into pros and cons.
PROS!
-He’s 25
-He is an excellent run stopper.
-He is a locker room leader and a great teammate
-His 2016 season was legitimately all-pro levels
-He is smart
-He has been hurt, but when healthy he’s great
CONS!
-He can’t cover very well. He was routinely targeted and beaten through the air.
-His 2016 season was the last time he was healthy
-In 2016 the entire defense played inspired football, and you could make an argument that they overachieved against mediocre competition
-You don’t really build a defense around a one dimensional box safety.
–Stupid hair
Collins is overrated. Believe it or not I’m not even saying that because we lost him and I’m rationalizing it. I genuinely wish we kept him. We could afford it. We could cut Vernon or one of the other bad contracts. He’s one of the few young talented players we had on defense and he was a great locker room presence. I’m sure he would have loved to stay. I’m sure the locker room isn’t happy about it right now. But Collins is definitely overrated. He’s had one great season, and it was a season where the entire defense played well, which made his job easier. Outside that single season, he’s been goddawful (his rookie year) and either meh or hurt (past two seasons).
He plays box safety very well. He’s excellent in run support. If your team needs run support in the secondary, he’s your guy. Dude is a thumper. But that of course gets him injured. Worse, he isn’t good in coverage. He was beat by tight ends a lot, which shouldn’t really be happening to a safety. QBs where not afraid to throw at Landon Collins. He was the best player in our secondary and he couldn’t cover. It’s hard to justify giving a limited player that big of a contract. Obviously once the Giants finally jettison Eli and Vernon, they will have some cap space, which made this doable right now, but still. It’s a big contract for a limited guy who has had one great season and been hurt or merely fine since. If he turns out another 2016 it will definitely be a sad day for Giants fans. I do wish him well. I personally want him on a contender like the Chiefs.
Gettleman’s plans are still a big mystery at this point. So far he’s been a mixed bag. I liked him getting rid of JPP, I liked Saquon and think that pick gets too much hate considering we need more time to see it play out (especially if the Giants draft Haskins this year, which I’m personally rooting for). His draft was pretty solid. Bringing in Jonathan Stewart was terrible. Letting Collins walk is extremely debatable. Giving Alec Ogletree a big contract to be mediocre was a bad move, which looks worse after letting Collins walk. I love how he was doing what he could to fix the line this season, as the team brought in guys and rotated guys on the line until the Giants found some semblance of stability. Simply seeing effort there was an improvement over McAdoo and Reese. At this point he might genuinely be a huge disaster of a GM or he might be really good and we just need more time to see what he’s trying to do.
I wish Collins a good career and many more thumps. I’ll miss ya big guy.
EDIT: HAHAHA WE GOT ZEITLER FOR VERNON IM TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH THAT. The defense is gonna be bad but if we get a QB and then go D this draft things are looking up
I totally disagree on Collins. I think since his all pro season he has been expected to make up for far too many deficiencies in the defence. Im honestly devastated he’s been let walk. I also disagree on JPP. I don’t think people ever evaluated him correctly – he was a decent pass rusher but an absolutely top notch run defender. Hes far superior to Vernon.
So far it looks to me like Gettleman is trying to get rid of “Reese guys”, and I just hope hes not foolish enough to do that with Odell “An Offence on His Own in 2016” Beckham
Collins was for sure asked to do too much but he is unquestionably a liability in coverage and has been every year outside 2016, when the whole D played great. He’s also spent two seasons banged up, probably due to his style. I’m sad to see him leave but I don’t think he’s as great as a lot of people say he is.
JPP was fine but he wasn’t worth the massive contract Reese gave him and I’m not sad to see that money off the books. I think Vernon is actually also great in the run game but he’s another contract we would probably be better without. This team needs an overhaul.
I think even Gettleman isn’t stupid enough to let Odell walk. He did pay the man, and the trade rumors are all unconfirmed noise. I want us to be able to re-sign Shep too, if we lose Shep I’m gonna be sad.
EDIT: HAHAHA WE TRADED VERNON FOR ZEITLER FUCK YEAH
“the trade rumors are all unconfirmed noise”
Thank you. I think you’re the first Giants fan I’ve seen who didn’t try to go all LOLBROWNS when the person who started the unfounded rumor that the Browns were going to trade a stupid number of players and draft picks for Beckham later said the Giants turned it down when she got caught making things up.
hey Dave did you here how people actually thought the Bills had enough pieces to trade for AB
Well they did have enough pieces, AB nixed it. All the Steelers got for him was a 3 and a 5.
I don’t think Gettleman really has a plan. The team needs to get younger fast, but playing in the New York market with the prestige the franchise has means they can’t commit to an all-out tank. That’s why you have this whole saga with Eli, and all the other problems going on. While I don’t think the Saquon pick will hurt them, for example, contracts like Beckham’s might. Also, the giants only have two picks in the first three rounds this year, and we may trade one of those to get Josh Rosen. I think Gettleman has gotten too far ahead of himself and is just going without directions at this point.
I literally want to cry. Landon could have been a generational player for us, like our next Strahan or Tuck. He’s young, talented, homegrown and a leader. Gettleman better get his act together or get out the door. He’s gonna go to Indy and help them on their way to the Superbowl this year.
Your phone must have autocorrected “an early round playoff loss” to “the Superbowl”. That’s kinda Indy’s MO right now.
an early round blowout loss to the pats
FTFY
Collins is gonna come be the Kam Chancellor replacement Seattle has needed since his injury, tbh a great fit with us
Hey Dave, what do you think of the trade that did end up happening?