Derek Carr Says A Stupid
*Makes kissy motion with hand* Oooooheeeee dat’s a spicy meatball, Derek. You really screwed the pooch on this one buckaroo. Mr. Carr you have successfully pissed off pretty much everyone in Oakland upset about the move. Bravo good sir, I didn’t think you had it in you.
Okay okay maybe that’s a bit harsh. The media is at fault here too. If you read the context around Carr’s big stupid it’s a lot more palatable, but he worded his thoughts extremely poorly and the media took the juiciest soundbite and made that the story. It’s not the first time this has happened, it won’t be the last, cest la vie. From what I can tell, Carr was trying to be sympathetic about the move, trying to connect with Raiders fans, trying to get them to sort of understand that this is not great news, but stick together, and maybe things will be okay. He was asking for loyalty (which is kind of rich coming from an NFL team, the same organizations that are happy to bail on fans for better profit margins) and then he said a stupid.
Even if you sympathize with Carr getting torn apart and not meaning it the way it came out, it was still the absolute worst thing to say at this point in time. Dude needs a little more PR practice. Accusing anyone in Oakland upset about the move and debating not following the team anymore of not being a real fan…oooph. Nope. Don’t do that. It’s basically like pissing on a grave. I’m also not a fan of the classic “I was misunderstood” non-apology afterward. Yeah the media took the bad angle but come on man, you gave them the angle because you made a stupid. Say you did a stupid, apologize for the stupid, then clarify the stupid.
Sports teams ask for loyalty when they move and I personally blame no one who gives that concept the middle finger and then burns rubber the opposite direction. In a completely objective sense, pro teams are really just businesses that can up and change locations whenever. But they are more than that to so many people, they are part of that community, and for most people the team is tied up with the identity of their home. I don’t personally have that particular connection with the Giants since I didn’t grow up in NY and couldn’t give a fuck about NY, but I do have that connection with the Orioles. growing up the Orioles were home. They were Baltimore. If the Orioles ever left Baltimore, I’d probably give up on baseball forever, because the O’s are the only reason I ever cared in the first place. They are a part of my childhood, a part of my identity as a kid. Cal Ripken was a hero, a symbol of pride for the city, the city I grew up with. That’s what the Orioles are. They aren’t just a loose collection of dudes who smack balls, wear smiley bird helmets and make millions, they are part of Baltimore. They feel like home. If they left it would feel like a kid moved out of my house while giving me the finger. I don’t even care about baseball anymore, nor do I live near Baltimore, and I’d still be upset about it if it happened, I know it.
For most fans, I don’t think following sports is actually about the sport at all. There are those of us who reach a point of obsession where we sort of begin to connect with the sport as a whole, which is where I would consider myself with football. But for most, it’s about the emotional connection. They are fans on the emotional level, the fan who is more about supporting the home team because the home team is an emotional aspect of themselves.
Derek Carr’s stupid pissed all over those Oakland fans and maybe instead of blaming others for “misunderstanding” he should just admit he made a very poor word choice and start speaking good.
But daaaaaaaaayyymn, that was a fucking great hot take, my man. Keep that juicy shit coming makes my job easier for sure.
Apropos of nothing edit: People have been asking when I’ll make an Eli fraud comic, I’m waiting for more info, the story doesn’t have a lot of juice and frankly leave it to Eli to be involved in the most dull scandal possible. Maybe when things get dull. Also Saturday will probably be Hernandez related because yeah…jeez.
Goddamnit Mark Davis
I always thought Derek Carr was a smart guy who had learned why pissing off fans is a BAD idea from his brother. Guess not. Whatever, he still seems like a cool guy what what with his randomly helping people who ran out of gas or finding a missing kid and whatnot.
Is it really David Carr’s fault he pissed off fans though
Not really with how fucking absymal his offensive lines were, but still
He says he sympathizes with the fans who are mad or hurt but those who flat out quit following the Raiders weren’t real fans to begin with. I agree. You can’t be angry with the team for moving from a city who made it public that they would not contribute a dime in taxpayer money to a new stadium for football but supports the A’s in their stadium plans.
You absolutely can be mad. Just because the city didn’t want to pony up millions of taxpayer dollars for a stadium doesn’t mean fans (who may have voted for it) can’t be angry about it
He’s right though.
Your description of the hypothetical loss of your Orioles is exactly how I felt (and still feel) about Seattle losing the Sonics. It was a piece of my childhood that was ripped away and the NBA has been dead to me since then.
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Ass. 🙁
Journalists who won’t report what I meant instead of what I said aren’t truth fans.
2016-2017 motto
At least he’s not Jontron who have proven that he should have turn down that debate invite.
Jon got fucked over by that SJW asshole who couldn’t deal with Jon’s differing opinions, and was immediately on the attack. But yeah, jon shouldn’t have gone into to that debate at all.
I agree, the shitstorm that happen is bull crap not to mention some hit piece by SJW sites like Polygon looking to further their nonsense as always but it’s clear that Jon has just as much experience in debates as I do and when someone with that much experience gets caught unprepared by someone who have some debating experience, things can go wrong. I don’t think Jon is racist but he does sucked as wording things properly and being how internet is, it tells you something.
And he lost out on his lifelong dream: being in a banjo kazooie game.
Fucking privileged SJWs. If they ended up in a country with REAL problems, they’d praise America.
You you seriously defend his views? Please educate me.
I don’t understand this mentality of “just because we have it better than others doesn’t mean we can’t try and fix our own problems”
America is great but it still has a shit ton of things that need improvement.
oh my god, nonironic use of “sjw” as pejorative
complete and perpetual loss of speaking privileges, posting privileges, respect privileges, and human privileges. please find a fire and die in it immediately
Already you got a “kill yourself” type post directed at you, never beat the classics I guess. With that said, I’m sure Jon knew what he was getting into when he took a dip into politics which can be cancerous if one is not careful. Probably didn’t expect it to explode the way it did but still, yeah.
Well when your “differing opinions” Are word for word neo nazi talking points, you deserve to get ever peice of shit you get. Jontron is a racist ass. He said he dosnt want minorities entering the white gene pool.
I just can’t get over how colossally unfair it is that the Raiders are moving >now<. Right when they became a Super Bowl contender. All those years of ineptitude. All those botched draft picks, and past their prime free agent signings. Finally, the Raiders not just turn a corner, but become an upper echelon team in the league. Then almost immediately dip off to Las Vegaas.
Like a S.O. that lost a bunch of weight then decided they liked being ogled in bars better than the relationship they had.
When are we getting a “Brock the Brown” Comic?
TOM BRADY KILLED HERNANDEZ THATS WHY HE WASNT AT THE WHITE HOUSE BECAUSE HE WAS DESTROYING EVEIDENCE BECAUSE HERNANDEZ WAS THREATENING TO BLAB ABOUT THE BRADY/BELICHIK/KRAFT ORGANISATION JUST LIKE THAT GUY THE KILLED IN THE WIRE THINK ABOUT IT YOU READ IT HERE FIRST FOLKS ALSO GRONK AND SPICER ARE SECRETLY BEHIND THE FAKE NEWS ELI SCANDAL
no, really. what a weird time this week has been in Boston sports.
At least the Red Sox turned it around. I knew the Celtics would would struggle but holy shit I didn’t expect them to go down 0-2. Has a 1 seed ever been swept?
Not in the NBA (although golden state won 4-straight over the Mavs in 2007)
That sounded like something Paul Priore would have wrote had he worked for the Patriots and was fired.
NFL in general is rough on fan loyalty. Too many transitions, players getting transferred, coaches fired, new coaches hired, rival team’s players now on your team. Ok yes I am a Niner fan.
Oh and teams picking up and moving to different cities. St. Louis is suing the Rams.
I hate to be that guy here, but the whole “X did a stupid”, “y did a fraud” thing is really grating. Once in a while, it’s a joke, but when you write a whole thing intentionally using words incorrectly, it makes it hard to understand what the hell you’re talking about, especially when you’ve got no rules around it (people can apparently ‘make’, ‘do’, and ‘say’ stupids and it means the same thing). It’s a tired joke that sounds lazy and ignorant, and it makes me not want to read or listen to what you have to say. Which is a pity, because otherwise I agree with your take entirely.
“i agree with your broader points but let me take a paragraph to disagree with your internet lingo”
If it annoys him it annoys him
It’s not like I do it every comic, I thought it was funny to write for this one though.
I’m not even from Oakland and I am a HUGE Raider fan! I’m super excited for the move! Vegas has a 50/50 Bronco/Raider fan base! And the state of Nevada has no NFL team! The move is a wonderful idea and Carr is 100% correct! If you so called “fans” are upset about the move then apparently your not aware the Raiders were once the LA Raiders and THEN became Oakland….So why is THIS move so upsetting!? I’m happy my team will have the best stadium in the NFL! They’ve needed a new stadium for years and deserve this! I will ALWAYS be a Raider fan no matter where they relocate! And I can’t wait to go see them in Las Vegas! <3 (btw I was born and raised here in Colorado and have been a Raider fan since I was around 5 yrs old before I even knew football, I will be a die hard Raider fan ALWAYS! 23 years and counting! )
Know the team you claim to be a fan of. The Raiders came from Oakland, moved to LA, then moved BACK to Oakland. You sound like you think they’re from LA. They are not. Most of this team’s history is Oakland. That’s what is the most disappointing thing about this move.
Re-reading your post, I came to realize you’re just stupid and want to talk about yourself.
You probably shouldn’t piss on Oakland fans when you aren’t from Oakland and therefore don’t seem to understand the hometown attachment the angry fans do. For them, the Raiders ARE part of Oakland’s identity and by extension their own identity. For you, they aren’t. They aren’t less valid fans, they are just a different type of fan.
Lol, that’s a good joke. Well it has to be right? No way anyone who knew an ounce of football would think the Raiders were originally from LA.
Then again there are some fans who thinks the Ravens were formed in Baltimore without the stuffing imported from Cleveland…
Never Tweet.
Fuck all the kry babies. This is Raider nation there is millions of fans that aint from Oakland. Carr keep ur head up boy for all u Oakland fans kum along or get left behind # DenverRaiderNation #DieHardRaider
I just had to do it when it comes to the Hernandez news. Here it goes…
Guess it wasn’t enough that he had taken someone’s life so he decided to kill himself as well. He just couldn’t stop killing.
He was on a verge of making a killing on a career as a one half of what could have been the greatest TE tandem on a Super Bowl contender, only to killed his career in the process. The kind of football career he could’ve have, many would have killed just to have it, I mean it is to die for after all. Some of the highlights he had, he killed it.
Too bad he just had to kill it to death.
Never seen my last name written so many times on here
Raiders is a really weird last name.
So is Carr, smartass
You were some how able to make Mark Davis less punchable looking than he actually is.
Isn’t it a wee bit hypocritical to wait for more info on the Eli thing when you certaintly jumped into just about every other scandal since this comic has existed? And how would any more info change what the set up to a comic would be? This shit ain’t BBC.
Maybe a wee bit. But after being proved wrong on deflategate jumping onto a scandal too early is something I’m willing to be more patient on these days.
however 1. I’ve skipped plenty of scandals before, I didn’t personally make a Kaep comic until a week ago and that was the scandal of the season, and I also avoided the Tom Brady Jersey thing
2. I do try to not make every comic about the Giants
3. the scandal is really lame. Eli probably gave fake game used helmets to fufill a contract. There just isn’t a lot of juice or fun, it’s an incredibly dull scandal and even if it wasn’t Eli I’d probably be ignoring it
4. We really don’t know much at this point, all we have are some emails lacking a little bit of context
5. I talked about it on the podcast this week! I touch on subjects I don’t make comics on during the podcast a lot
6. The true, dark secret is I haven’t come up with anything good for it yet
To be fair, premature jumping is pretty common in general media so it’s an easy mistake to make anyway. I mean they didn’t learn from Roscoe Arbuckle, they didn’t learn from 2006 Duke Lacrosse scandal, they didn’t learn from Patrick Kane, and so on.
It’s a matter of time before Tom Brady gets accused of participating in Happy Madison productions.
Gotcha, appreciate the follow up.
frankly, I don’t come to TDP for fairenbalanced NFL coverage. it’d be fine if Dave was a flaming Giants homer and talked about the Pats the way he talks about the Eagills. the NFL is so fuckin ridiculous that any take on it is fine. it’s simply a facet of the metashape that is the NFL
I’m waiting for a comic where it’s revealed that Eli’s wall-eyed, derpy self is a facade and he’s a criminal mastermind. Rocket pops don’t pay for themselves…
Dave! – I love your comics despite your love of the Giants. Now you tell us you grew up in Baltimore, I’m wondering why you chose the GMen?
It’s on my about page, but I inherited the fandom from my parents (Dad is from NY)
He’s rite you know. I don’t have a voice like he does. But you ain’t a true raider fan…remember win lose or tie raider till I die…you wack ass fans are y they call us traders cuz u switch it up when times get tuff..just remember all those years we have been losing look how far we have come as raider fans always saying next year..well it’s going to be next year will you still be a raider or not? You wanna blame someone that’s easy oakland mayors for promises since we moved back to oakland and now Las Vegas is here to hook it up with a phat stadium at the party capital of the world. I will be there with my raider gear on. So let’s go oakland raiders for now maybe we can win one for the O b4 we ghost out to Vegas…………….120% RAIDER FAN
Fucking pussies!
Isn’t this fuel for the fire to have the league expand again?
Sure as hell know I’d be so excited to see another team in Chicago…..so the McCaskey family would get off their asses and field a competent product.
not a bad notion actually, or even… start a whole new league and institute soccer-style relegation and promotion. it could be that “developmental league” they keep saying QB prospects need