Dave Visits Seattle
Feb19
on February 19, 2015
at 12:01 am
No normal comic today, sadly. I’m in Seattle as I type this on a visit and I didn’t have enough time to do a full comic. I’ll have a better, full comic about the trip on Saturday.
Now I want someone to make an NFL-themed parody of Oregon Trail. If we can have the zombie-themed Organ Trail, there’s no reason we can’t have an NFL version!
Wouldn’t the 12ers be the mindless zombies from that game? Also, some of the mascots are already represented in the game during the hunting part 😀
Its okay Dave, we still love you.
Oh common the weather has been gorgeous the last few days!
Eventually, the bandwagon jokes will die out, right?
I mean, I realize we’ve had some shitty fans as of late. It comes with having a successful team most of the time, especially one that has never had this kind of success. But people act like this team just magically sprouted under the rain and grew a fan base in 2012. We’ve been around for awhile, it’s just that no one cared. While I’m certainly biased, people just seem to use the fact that some fans are poor to feel superior to our team- I first noticed this after we beat Philadelphia. “We lost, sure, but at least we don’t have bandwagon fans!” I saw on football sites I go on. It’s just ridiculous at times hour often people shit on our minority of bandwagon fans and it’s hurt the reputation of the rest of us.
No, they will never go away. That was the biggest bandwagon – Wagon train in the history of history.
Right, let’s pretend like 2007 patriots never existed. Or 2013 heat. Ours is petty in comparison.
Oh you sweet young naive Seattle fans who are still unaccustomed to high success, you are so cute.
People still give Cowboys fans a hard time for the mid 90’s teams despite the Cowboys being largely irrelevant for the better part of a decade. Welcome to success. If you guys stay competitive for a while, the jokes will not go away.
When Seattle went to the SB in 2005 there wasn’t nearly this much uproar or fever over them. But now the fanbase is super vocal and prevalent and there are 12s all over the place. I live in Portland. I moved here before Russell Wilson was drafted. Seattle was a team some people seemed to care about, but most didn’t. These past two years that all changed and the 12 crap was EVERYWHERE. Even if the bandwagon is a minority, it’s an extremely loud and obnoxious minority (as bandwagons tend to be) and until the new fandom settles in a little more you are just going to have to deal with this crap for a while.
Honestly at this point it might be easier to roll with it and enjoy playing the villain.
For the most part, I do. I like to watch football more than anything, beyond personal fandom (nfl #1, Seattle #2) but yeah, until the franchise has some down years we’ll likely be the lol bandwagon team of the future.
The bandwagon comments won’t go away. In my opinion, the term Fairweather should be used more but people don’t really care about that. I mean, just look at the Mariner fans. Sure, they’re not all that great and it shows. Do I still watch them? Of course as they were the first baseball team the sparked my interests. Last year they barely filled more than 50% of stadiums seats. If anyone wants to know the result of a good team sprouting up, just watch the Mariners this year and keep in reference the 50% filled thing. They’re projected to be a top 10 team. (Or since baseball is a dying sport maybe it won’t change.)
Still here. The 12s are going nowhere.
Cripes, 12th Street has a *lot* of cemeteries!
Rip in pieces, Dave. You will be hailed as one of the greatest (football) cartoonists to ever bless the Earth.
Hey Rappoccio, we’ve been reading The Draw Play for 2 years now, and just moved to the area (from SF) ourselves. Want to knock back a beer? our treat. You got my email (if you don’t I’ll send it to you). I hear they’re adding extra salt on the margaritas.
” I hear they’re adding extra salt on the margaritas.”
Well we’re still working through that surplus from the 2013-2014 Season NFC Championship game.
We need a comic about Dean Spanos and his circus of treating us Chargers fans like shit. It’s becoming fast obvious to us down here that he doesn’t want to stay, and is just looking for excuses to jump to LA…
Join the dark side Dave.
We have fine decorated bandwagons and friendly keyboard warriors in the nerdiest city in the world. This is coming from you know who.
Honestly, here is the reason I hate the Seahawks fan-base:
When the Kingdom was nearly killing people with falling tiles, it was obvious that, unlike many stadiums that were redone because owners wanted more money, this was a stadium that NEEDED reworked, and– frankly– rebuilt. It was a grotesquery even when it was new.
So, Seattle (really, Washington) ended up having a vote, one which would determine whether the Seahawks would stay in Seattle, or basically leave for who-knows-where. Led by Paul Allen, the “KEEP THE SEAHAWKS IN SEATTLE AND BUILD A NEW STADIUM!” crowd drummed up about twenty-seven times the money the opposition did. The “KEEP THE SEAHAWKS IN SEATTLE AND BUILD A NEW STADIUM!” had immense support from local politicians on both sides of the aisle, including the then-current governor and the most popular living former governor in the state. It enjoyed promotion from the Seattle Times and the PI. It had EVERY SINGLE MAJOR ADVANTAGE POSSIBLE. It passed by less than a 2% swing.
When that same kind of vote went to Cleveland, it won in a landslide. At the time, it was the narrowest margin of victory for any such proposal in professional sports history, and while I haven’t checked since, I have no reason not to believe it still is. This city was so completely indifferent to the Seahawks, that in spite stacking the deck as hard as any election has ever been stacked, it *BARELY* passed.
Oh, and most of the 820k votes to keep the Seahawks in Seattle? They weren’t cast from King County– in fact, had it been a Seattle city election, it would have failed. Had it been a King County election, it would have failed. People OUTSIDE THE CITY cared more about keeping the Seahawks than the city itself did. Yeah, the issue of taxation-for-stadiums is controversial, and was, and most of that tax burden fell on the city itself, and so there were other issues besides just “Should we keep the Seahawks?”
But that’s what it boiled down to, and for other cities, the choice has been far clearer than it was for Seattle. This is a city that let a baseball team slip away indifferently (the Pilots), that let a basketball team go away without a real fight, that had playoff tickets selling for $15.00 this decade (man, watching Lynch truck the Saints was a treat for someone on a budget as limited as mine– thanks, Seattle, for having such crappy fans).
There are die-hard Seahawks fans; my wife’s boss is one, and has been since before Dave Kreig fumbled his way into the record books. I’ve got a neighbor who is a pleasure to talk with about the old days. They are around, and they are VOCAL. But they aren’t the Twelfth Man. Oh, they yell and scream and stomp their feat, but they’ve been doing it since before the best-built stadium that money could design was brought in. They’ve been doing it since before ‘Tez-Rex was on that whatever-softdrink (Pepsi? Coke?). They’re just ‘Hawks fans.
But the Twelfth Man is a sham. It’s a marketing ploy that begs people to revise their history. And while I’m FINE with a city finding new-found love for a team, let us be honest here: until a city can endure a decade of mediocrity with unwavering loyalty, until it can love the team– truly love it, not mockingly endure it– in its worst times, any outbursting of fandom deserves to be derided, it deserves to me mocked, it deserves to be scorned and berated as the self-serving, narcissistic, fair-weather absurdity that it is. Love your team, hate them, be indifferent, I don’t care– but be consistent, or if you simply must cheer on for success, for the love of all that is Holy and Unholy in this and all possible worlds, don’t act like you are a bunch of super-fans, unique in the sportsworld for cheering on a winner. You’re not. You’re pathetic, you’re insipid, you’re spoiled. You’re just a typical person riding someone else’s coattails to success, but without the authenticity to mourn in the bad years.
Apparently Paul Allen was also indifferent to keeping the Seahawks in Seattle, or he would have put up his own money for a stadium. It would have cost, what, 2% of his money?
He’s one of the richest people on the planet. Billionaires crying for public money is obscene.
I believe the last Phoenix Coyotes passed with a 1% vote to keep them from moving to Hamilton.
I could be wrong on the number, but it was extremely slim